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#386049 - 03/09/10 08:24 AM
Re: Lane patterns 101
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Great information!
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#386099 - 03/09/10 04:15 PM
Re: Lane patterns 101
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Yes, good stuff...keep on keepin' on...these parameters you lay out, do they apply to both wood & syns, or one more than the other.
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#386100 - 03/09/10 04:32 PM
Re: Lane patterns 101
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Yes.....wood or synthetic.
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#386506 - 03/12/10 07:29 AM
Re: Lane patterns 101
[Re: 8270king]
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How do you compensate the "31 rule" based upon crowning or depressed lanes?
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#386538 - 03/12/10 12:22 PM
Re: Lane patterns 101
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From my travels the oil pattern makes the ball slide the distance oil is applied. The 31 rule will still come be used.
On a lane that is crowned, the line of attack will be much straighter to get to the "spot".
On a lane that is depressed you will probably have to start further left than normal to arrive at the "spot".
Now.....if you have a short pattern on a depressed lane the depression will most likely not have an effect on ball reaction since you are right of the depression.
There are may things that will have an effect on ball reaction.
The issue with tilts (which will impact play more than depressions/crowns IMO) and depressions are these numeric values are not known to the bowler.
Most good tournaments will post a pattern you can decipher.
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#386544 - 03/12/10 12:55 PM
Re: Lane patterns 101
[Re: 8270king]
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Jerry keeps good notes on lane conditioner patterns. I've seen his office. 
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#386632 - 03/13/10 08:13 AM
Re: Lane patterns 101
[Re: 8270king]
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Registered: 05/17/04
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king,could you give examples under lane patterns 101 for numbers 7,8 ,9 using a kustodian with smoothing bars,40ml stream using defence c 7 to 1. can e-mail me at jpitts@stny.rr.com.
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#386663 - 03/13/10 05:06 PM
Re: Lane patterns 101
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http://www.kegel.net/patternlibrary/default.aspYou can find them right here under the Challenge series and Sport series. All the different patterns under the recreational series are for a 50 mic stream.
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#387755 - 03/22/10 11:58 AM
Re: Lane patterns 101
[Re: 8270king]
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Registered: 06/25/07
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Thanks King. Considering my knowledge on pattern building, I can use all the help I can get! My Tuesday Scratch league wanted a challenging pattern. Used one from Kegel in my Phoenix-S but failed to realize it was for transfer brush only on 50 mic stream. Needless to say, I've succeeded to drop averages 10-35 pins!
Oh, they wanted challenging. I think the breakdown happens so fast that you can see it change as the ball travels down the lane! The only saving grace as the proprietor is that nearly EVERYONE is down in ave in that league so no one feels excluded. I'd expect more complaining, but amazingly it's not happening. Refreshing, really.
Good to see Kegel has included TR pattern conversions for their Challange/Sport series. Probably be using one or all of them next season.
Thanks again.
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#387878 - 03/23/10 11:22 AM
Re: Lane patterns 101
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Welcome. If you want one of those tweaked let me know.
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#389096 - 04/01/10 01:09 AM
Re: Lane patterns 101
[Re: 8270king]
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I've always watched the 28-45' area to determine what to do to make the lane condition "hit" better. What is your take on this method? Of course, I watch how the ball drives through the pocket but this area seems to be the key in my mind. The slide is obvious but the transition is not as easy to read since there are so many balls and bowlers.
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#395127 - 05/22/10 03:23 AM
Re: Lane patterns 101
[Re: DONO]
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Registered: 07/04/07
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alot of great info here jerry. keep up the great work.
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