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  • New Qubica install and issues

    We just had Qubica scoring put in over the summer.
    It works very well for the most part but we are having a couple of problems I'm trying to track down.
    We have Brunswick A2's with new pin solenoid's.
    The 2 issues we have are both on the same pair.
    On 7&8 when you throw a strike in any frame the new pin solenoid kicks over to 2 nd ball before the pinsetter is told to cycle.
    Also on lane 7 only the scoring after the pinsetter sets up a spare will randomly sweep the spare and set 10 new pins immediately after the pinsetter stops from setting up the spare.
    Any ideas where the problem could be?
    I've swapped the "F" box with a known good one and ATM the recycle/spare sweep problem seems to have cleared up but the scoring is still firing the NPS after you throw a strike on both lanes?
    Help?
    "I love my Schutzhund trained German Shepherd's, because if you run from them, you will just die tired"

  • #2
    copy pinsetter settings from another pair and that should solve nps issue however the nps is doing what it supposed to do on a strike ,it should do the same on no tap

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    • #3
      Make sure the rod loop from the NPS to the standing pins selector isn't bound or twisted into a bind.
      With the machine on, test the NPS circuit by using a jumper in the F-box connector for the NPS - it's the 2 conductor phoenix connector on the extreme left or right of the F-box. Touch the jumper across the screw terminals of that 2 conductor phoenix connector and the NPS will engage. Again, make sure there is no bind when it is at rest, and after it pulls the standing pins selector forward.
      As David alludes to, make sure the pinsetter settings are the same as other lanes. When the issue is common to both lanes, the fix is likely to be something common to both, when on a single lane, look for things specific to wiring or hardware on that lane.
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      • #4
        Sounds like a settings issue

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        • #5
          That's the way qubica seems to want to set it up but there is a way to prevent it from firing the solenoid after a strike. It's useless on Brunswick machine since it still has to go through a complete cycle regardless. All it does is prevent the deck from lowering.

          As someone already mentioned, it sounds like you have some mixed up settings.
          If you think my girlfriend can fight, you should see her box!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jack_Sparrow View Post
            That's the way qubica seems to want to set it up but there is a way to prevent it from firing the solenoid after a strike. It's useless on Brunswick machine since it still has to go through a complete cycle regardless. All it does is prevent the deck from lowering.

            As someone already mentioned, it sounds like you have some mixed up settings.
            I'm fairly new to Qubica scoring, but learning a little at a time. I would like to eliminate the NPS firing on strike cycle. We have T-Vision + FBox. In the parameter settings, our mode is set on "H". I saw in another post for BESX + FBox scoring that changing that mode to "Q" would eliminate the NPS on strikes, but it will function for fouls and tenth frames. Can anyone tell me if this will work on our system?
            It is wiser to find out than suppose.--Mark Twain

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            • #7
              That should work for you. I don't recall the actual parameter but it could be Q.

              Edit: Q it is. Here's the discussion,

              http://www.bowltech.com/forum/automa...the-cycle-link
              If you think my girlfriend can fight, you should see her box!

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              • #8
                Thanks for the reply. Will let you know if it does indeed work once I get around to making the change.
                It is wiser to find out than suppose.--Mark Twain

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                • #9
                  Tried switching the mode to "Q" from "H" this morning on a pair and then tested. It did not eliminate the NPS firing on strike cycle. So, not sure if there is something else in the parameters that I should change. As I stated in previous post, I'm slowly learning about this system and don't find any documentation here for what all the parameters are for. Any ideas?
                  It is wiser to find out than suppose.--Mark Twain

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                  • #10
                    Did you resolve this problem?
                    If you think my girlfriend can fight, you should see her box!

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                    • #11
                      I have not as of yet. Been in contact with Qubica support a few times the past couple of weeks, but the steps they gave me didn't work for what I want the system to do. So I'm waiting for one of the techs with more knowledge of this system to call me so I can make sure of all the steps. It does require a reboot of the VDB 2 or 3 times during the change. Once I (hopefully) find out how to do this, I'll post the steps required.
                      It is wiser to find out than suppose.--Mark Twain

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Stripperbolt View Post
                        Tried switching the mode to "Q" from "H" this morning on a pair and then tested. It did not eliminate the NPS firing on strike cycle. So, not sure if there is something else in the parameters that I should change. As I stated in previous post, I'm slowly learning about this system and don't find any documentation here for what all the parameters are for. Any ideas?
                        Did you upload the new setting to the lane pair? Simply changing the mode without reuploading will not put the change into effect. I run mode Q and it does not fire the NPS on a strike cycle on BES-X.

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                        • #13
                          Yes, uploaded the setting, re-booted the VDB after upload. After it booted up, I unplugged/re-plugged the VDB to re-boot it again as I was instructed by Qubica tech.
                          It is wiser to find out than suppose.--Mark Twain

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                          • #14
                            Ok gang, I know this is an old thread but it's sorta pertinent in an off hand way. I've been trying to utilize some of the functions in my scoring. I've got concurer version 11. something if im not mistaken. I changed all of my lanes fom H to Q and set my stand by to the max which I think was 244. the issue that I'm running into is that when a machine shuts down, some lanes will score that ball, the ball that turned the machine on, but others wont score until you reset the machine back to first ball. The parameters seem to all be set the same other than a few machines still have the second lamp read checked. What am I missing here that's different between differant sets of lanes.
                            If its still broken, guess it wasnt in the parts budget.

                            Z

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