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  • GS Blackouts

    Is there any way to keep the GS Pinsetter from blackout when it detects an out of range pin .... It goes blackout on the first shot and if the bowler missess the shot it blackouts again on the second shot ...any sugestions?

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    Re: GS Blackouts

    the thing is that its a saftey issue, the oor switch is an automatic cut off the same as ts1 & ts2. personally i would rather have these switchs just incase the machine cycles while your underneath it. as far as stopin it from stopping remove it. but i wouldnt.

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    • #3
      Re: GS Blackouts

      If it is a Consolidated Electronics, there is a dip switch on the CPU. One of those switches will disable it. If you have sanctioned leagues, you can't legally do it. If you have Nexgen, I can't help you.
      John

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      • #4
        Re: GS Blackouts

        I'd try to lessen the pin sliding on the pin decks.
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        • #5
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          I have vector scoring. In the GS-Pinsetter Control. On the server computer, there is a OOR option where you can say, that if it finds an out of range it will continue. It can't score the pins, but the table and the sweep will go back up. You could have dead wood on the pin deck, but you can continue without going in the back to reset every 10 minutes (if you have alot of OOR's). It is somewhat helpful if scoring isn't an issue with customers. Just an idea.

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          • #6
            Re: GS Blackouts

            If you have Nexgen you can go into Nexgen on each machine and set it to ignore OOR's. Turn both run switches to off and then scroll down on the menu to I beleive settings and it is in there.

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            • #7
              Re: GS Blackouts

              Originally posted by jb_stroud
              personally i would rather have these switchs just incase the machine cycles while your underneath it.
              The machine can't cycle if you have it turned "OFF"... I would never go underneath a machine with the power on.
              Lifes to short to stress on little things.

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              • #8
                Re: GS Blackouts

                [QUOTE= jb_stroud
                personally i would rather have these switchs just incase the machine cycles while your underneath it.

                The reason for the Black out is due to USBC rules that state that you can not bowl if there is dead wood on the lane. This is the only reason for the black out on OOR's to make sure that all dead wood is removed (pg 3-20 of GSX operation and service manual)

                IF YOU SHOULD NEED TO REMOVE DEAD WOOD USE A PIN HOOK FOR THE BACK OF THE MACHINE OR TURN OFF MACHINE, PLACE BLOCK OR JACK STAND UNDER TABLE AND CRAWL INSIDE AND REMOVE DEAD WOOD

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                • #9
                  Re: GS Blackouts

                  I turned off the OOR switch, as I will not allow my guys to use it as a substitute when the machine should be well and truly isolated before they even consider stepping down. Although unless you are very small you will probably find that you block the sweep from dropping to the guard position which will stop the machine anyway.

                  Another point to consider when making the decision is if you have pro bowling or leagues that may complain, or like at my place if your drunken customers will bowl the minute they see a pair of feet that came down to clear the dead wood away.

                  I tend to view it as an unnessecary stop that means someone going under a machine in the first place. not everyone will agree with me on that - i dont claim its right for everyone.
                  i think its dead.. duck tape time

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                  • #10
                    Re: GS Blackouts

                    Pin hooks are the only way to go on any machine IMO. Safety first, pins can always be respotted, people can't!
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                    • #11
                      Re: GS Blackouts

                      Thanks for the tips ...But what really helped me is spraying extra lane cleaner directly on the pin decks. After I spayed it I ran the kegel and it worked great! Had two out of range all night long. compared to 20

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                      • #12
                        Re: GS Blackouts

                        Run a strip only program on the lane machine. The lane shold be dry as a bone - tennis shoes shold squeek everywhere on the lane.
                        You could have a squeege issue, or dispensing issue.
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                        • #13
                          Re: GS Blackouts

                          Iam with Ted on this about the lane machine being your problem. After checking the squeege check your programing to see when the sponge roller is lifting. I had a lot of OOR's here until I found out that the roller was picking up way to soon to get the deck clean. I set mine to pick up about 10 inches from the tail plank.
                          Andy

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