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    At the center I am in, maintenance on the machines had been neglected for a long time. This summer, I plan to remove decks, etc. for cleaning and servicing, and would also like to get detectors cleaned up. What is the safest way to accomplish this while on the machine? I'm mainly concerned about flushing debris into bearings, etc., that could end up causing problems.

  • #2
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    I have a plyboard, that slides up on ball track and extends up to lay against curtain rod and deck chutes....it is covered by lanes towels. You can now spray down the detector with a solvent base cleaner (I use agetine).Once cleaned I air off, then apply spray penatrate grease and then light oil......makes for a pretty clean job and easy clean up.

    Peanut

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    • #3
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      good tip william, i have always wanted to clean off my detectors and greaboxes but was never sure of an easy way to do it without making a mess and without taking them off of the machine
      Money is everything when your racin' and placin'

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      • #4
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        Do you blow off the machine before you spray
        cleaner & does this cleaner bring off 40 years
        of grime?

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        • #5
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          I drop the deck to set new pins, tape a plastic drop cloth from the deck light sloped down to the rear edge of the pit board. This way I can hit the gearbox, detector, turret, etc... I use engine degreaser, then a high pressure rinse,then air blow it dry. Like Mr. peanut, I use spray grease and light turbine oil. Also requires alittle mop up behind the machine.
          I kinda like them French Fried Taters, mmmm-hmmm.

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          • #6
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            good ideas, ive been thinking about that myself, as most of my detectors look horrible.
            peanut, whats the extra gear on your detector?
            that pit isnt loud, its running with authority!

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            • #7
              Re: Cleaning Detectors

              The extra gear is for that particular scoring system. I think they're called cluster gears.

              JOEY

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              • #8
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                Looks like a switch cluster for Brunswick scoring. Do you remove the switch cluster when cleaning the detectors?
                Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

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                • #9
                  Re: Cleaning Detectors

                  if your going to clean the gearbox, I would
                  remove the oil pan first

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                  • #10
                    Re: Cleaning Detectors

                    Originally posted by Curt P:
                    I'm mainly concerned about flushing debris into bearings, etc., that could end up causing problems.
                    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Curt, you have valid reasons for being concerned about flushing debris into the bearings,and other areas of the detector.
                    I would recommend purchasing a spare detector to install onto a machine. Then take the removed detector and do a complete tear down ,cleaning ,and inspection of worn parts. Finally , reassemble the detector with fresh lubricants.
                    At a detector seminar a while back, Dave Dirito told a story of taking over maintenance at a center that had the same condition you described. He flushed down the detectors( while still on the machine ) with poor results, and added problems that were not there before.
                    I can certainly understand your frustration with filthy machines, as I do service for several centers that have the 40 year old dirty conditions that you describe.
                    I do have a program in one center , whereas I have a spare detector and gearbox that gets changed out as a whole unit. During the rebuilding process, it takes much elbow grease and pressure washing to completely remove all the built - up crud. In my opinion, you just can not do a good clean -up of a 40 year old detector , with out removing it , and tearing it down.
                    JMO, Mark
                    There is light at the end of the tunnel - just be sure it is not a train.

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                    • #11
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                      PS Curt,
                      Since you are new to Bowl -Tech, I have to tell you that Masternuts machines are clean enough to eat off BEFORE he cleans the detectors [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
                      His machines look better than factory new. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif[/img]
                      The solvent cleaner that he uses on his detectors actually comes out cleaner than when he started [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]
                      If you have not had the chance, I would suggest that you go to Masternuts homepage and check out his pictures.

                      Mark
                      There is light at the end of the tunnel - just be sure it is not a train.

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                      • #12
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                        I've flushed 100's of detectors, with a (stiff) 1" paint brush and pinsetter cleaner on the machines. You are not going to get any more debree washed in to the bearings than you would at a car wash, or using a pressure washer. Unless you disasymble the detector to clean it. And clean every part one at a time. Removing it, is less messy.
                        The only problem that flushing, or washing down a detector would be if you waited a day or 2 with out lubing it. Which I did a couple of times.
                        I always used 10 weight oil after cleaning. But I think I'm going to try the spray grease..Maybe??
                        Marv
                        77 E-250 4x4 van

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                        • #13
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                          I vote for removing them and rebuiding them. Not hard to do. Plus you can really get them clean. If you have a couple spares, you can change out 2 a day. Teach the "B" and pinchasers how to do it. We did 60 in one month back in the day. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/usflag.jpg[/img]

                          Ski

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                          • #14
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                            IMHO if you have the time I would also suggest removing the detector if they have been around for as long as you said they have. When you do this it gives you a good chance to test out the bearings on the ends of the detector shafts and to inspect the bushings to make sure they are in good shape. Even though that its honestly a rare chance that a detector will fail you dont know exactly how well kept up they were. Disassemble and test out the cam follower bearings and make sure they move freely. Clean up the parts and replace any that have to be replaced and reassemble. Afterwards whenever you have to go back and clean out the detector a simple spray down is all thats required.
                            Wait what?...What's wrong?.....Sure no problem! Give me a really big freakin hammer...I'll fix it.

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                            • #15
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                              These are all very valid points. Spraying on the machine CAN work and I agree that in Peanuts case the solvent most likely does come out cleaner than when it went in!

                              If you are going to make the effort to do this, and they have been on the machines for 40 years w/o any service to them (not uncommon), you owe it to yourself and the center to give them a good once over. - Remove them, disassemble and INSPECT them, repair them if needed, lubricate them and reinstall them. THEN if you want to spray them down once every year or so, you will have them at a point where you can maintain them.

                              You will be amazed at the amount of "stuff" you will find that has been dropped over the years into and around the detectors - start a collection to see how much extra stuff you find.

                              If you are unsure about this proceedure, shoot me an email at david.dirito@brunbowl.com and I will send you out one of my seminar booklets that has photos and is much easier to follow than the original green detector manual.(for a small donation! - just kidding, it's n/c)

                              Of course, I would prefer you attend one of our rebuilding workshops, where you can bring in your spare (or one from a lane that can go without it for the day) and go through the process with myself or one of our very compitent Product Specialists. If you have never been to one, talk to your distributor about setting one up in your area. The cost is usually very minimal, typically covers the expenses of the distributor that hosts it. oooops, small pitch - sorry.

                              Dave
                              http://www.popevil.com

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