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    Have a Phoenix-S double roller machine, and you can see a diagonal line of oil on the lanes when oiling. Most noticable on the forward pass. Is this an oil tip height issue?

    Thanks,

    Pete

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    i have been told this is normal. It does make taping the lanes harder but does not have any effect on the way the lanes play.

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    • #3
      I have a Kustodian ion with a transfer brush. Once I had an issue with seeing a zig zag on the lanes, but it was apparent on the reverse travel, not the forward. The problem was that the oil tip was pumping the oil stream too low on the transfer brush and it was transfering to the buffer brush too quickly. I adjusted the oil tip up a bit higher on the transfer brush and the problem went away.....I am not too familiar with the double roller system, but maybe the problem is somehow also related to oil tip placement as you are thinking.
      Nick

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      • #4
        The tip height adjustment on an S machine with double roller is about the starting and stopping point on the transfer roller.

        The zig zag is normal on a Phoenix S....however you might need your transfer rollers sandblasted.

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        • #5
          The Zig Zag should not be noticeable in the forward direction, check your buffer brush adjustment. The only other reason I can think of is if your buffer is rotating toward the foul line or extremely worn.

          The zig zag comes from the brush rotating towards the pins and laying the oil down as it sees it from the roller, in the forward application it is "pushed/swept" down the lane providing a nice smooth pattern.
          This is the reason I do all forward loads on this style machine.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BillHolota View Post
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            The zig zag comes from the brush rotating towards the pins and laying the oil down as it sees it from the roller, in the forward application it is "pushed/swept" down the lane providing a nice smooth pattern.
            This is the reason I do all forward loads on this style machine.

            This makes sense (even for a transfer brush machine)....I might give the forward load only approach a try in the summer and see how I like it.
            Nick

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            • #7
              Thanks for all the replies. It doesn't seem to be affecting the oil pattern and the pattern looks smooth after the reverse pass. The buffer brush was new at the beginning of this season, and I did check the adjustments. I didn't notice the zig zag before the new brush was installed, and I have no idea how old the old brush was. I will have to check the buffer rotation next time I go to the center.

              Thanks again!

              Pete

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              • #8
                Update to an old thread....it turns out the buffer was spinning in reverse on this machine. Swapped wires and 'V' in oil pattern is gone. Thanks Bill.


                Pete

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                • #9
                  As king stated......... tranfer rollers sandblasted does make a different....

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                  • #10
                    Sanblasted roller on a double roller machine has little effect. The origional machines had 2 shiny rollers. The sandblasted roller is more important on a machine with smoother pads.

                    If the sandblasted roller fixed the zig zag issue then the sanction mahcine would have never evolved to the transfer brush system.


                    Bill

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