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    phoenix wick machine with a head scratcher. I've taken over running and maintenance and every time i run lane 18 the machine stops almost 2 feet short of the end of the deck. the others have been pushing the machine back onto the lane after the inevitable travel interrupt until it starts running again. i got to thinking about it and figured this is why the pair plays differently.everyone hated it because if you got the ball outside too much it would never make it back onto the lane. for now i measured the difference on the deck and when the travel error happened i pushed it out onto the lane that far.when i bowled on the pair they seemed to play much more evenly.when i got to far outside on 18 the ball came back. now i just need to figure out why.its not riding up on pins...the deck and edge boards are not any worse than any other lane...the deck doesn't spread out at all and the bumpers aren't interfering.could the lane finish on 18 have something weird going on causing the travel wheels to slip? only happens on 18 and always happens.
    Failed safety course.Question #1:In case of fire what steps do you take? Apparently 'Friggin long ones!" is the wrong answer.

  • #2
    My guess is you could have a lower duster switch bad - and or a dip in the lane where the fail safe is being tripped

    I would take the lower duster switches off the machine and remove the wire

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    • #3
      Any deck coatings?, I've heard the machines slipping on wet basecoat.

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      • #4
        Lanes haven't been touched in the season and a half I've been there. I'm thinking it really has to be something 'lane-specific' as the machine runs fine on all the other lanes. Can't see it being the duster switch as the machine never even makes it to the back of the deck on that lane.
        Failed safety course.Question #1:In case of fire what steps do you take? Apparently 'Friggin long ones!" is the wrong answer.

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        • #5
          On a side note, we had our yearly high school MLK tournament monday and everyone had a great time. The machines ran great, a couple jams and half a dozen ball calls. Scores were good and absolutely no complaints about the shot. Congrajulations to the Canfield voys team and Austintown-Fitch girls on their wins. Got a nice write-up as well in the local paper...front page no less!

          Failed safety course.Question #1:In case of fire what steps do you take? Apparently 'Friggin long ones!" is the wrong answer.

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          • #6
            Just dawned on me that if the machine was slipping then I would notice is as it went down the lane.
            Failed safety course.Question #1:In case of fire what steps do you take? Apparently 'Friggin long ones!" is the wrong answer.

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            • #7
              Try starting machine with front rollers on the foul line

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              • #8
                I always start it with the back of the wheels lined up with the foul line
                Failed safety course.Question #1:In case of fire what steps do you take? Apparently 'Friggin long ones!" is the wrong answer.

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                • #9
                  When the machine stops on the pindeck, check to see if the momentary wheels are touching the pindeck. Jerry could be right about the lower switches, if the cushion roller is too small or has shrank over time. Don't be too quick to dismiss ideas. If there is a topographical issue on that lane and the machine is just barely in spec the issue with that one lane could be enough to trigger it. Try the suggestions offered, if it doesn't work then anything involving those parts can be eliminated.
                  Conditioner: Pantene Pro-V Brunette Expressions with Color Enhancer
                  Cleaner: Fabuloso Spring Fresh with Bleach Alternative
                  Cloth: ShamWow!
                  Machine: Johnny 5
                  Surface: Melamine-impregnated, phenolic-treated, high pressure pressed craft paper

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                  • #10
                    As sham says....Momentary wheels.
                    I had this happen to me once and it drove me crazy, I did a couple simple adjustments and machine wouldn't run through pit on first lane. I lowered the momentary wheel low enough so it didn't hit the lane but the pindeck must of had a front to back slope.
                    Not likely the failsafe switches since the machine would not give you an error message, it would just come back.
                    My first thought would be guide wheels, transitions in that area can sometimes be a problem.
                    If there is an error message then the drive motor is stalling or the wheels are slipping.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by wepauls View Post
                      Try starting machine with front rollers on the foul line
                      AGAIN - THIS IS BAD ADVICE - YOU CANNOT START A KEGEL MACHINE AS SUCH

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by shamefowjze View Post
                        Jerry could be right about the lower switches
                        It would be the first time!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 8270king View Post
                          Not this time!

                          Fixed!

                          LOL

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                          • #14
                            Good one Bill. Funny stuff.
                            Conditioner: Pantene Pro-V Brunette Expressions with Color Enhancer
                            Cleaner: Fabuloso Spring Fresh with Bleach Alternative
                            Cloth: ShamWow!
                            Machine: Johnny 5
                            Surface: Melamine-impregnated, phenolic-treated, high pressure pressed craft paper

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BillHolota View Post
                              Fixed!

                              LOL

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