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    Hello 8270King.
    Could use your advice. We changed oil from SynPro40 to Navigate. We clean with defence C. Have a Phoenix, also have HPL's.

    We went from a fantastic shot, to playing to slick after the change. Didn't change the machine just the oil.
    When the players swing the ball right just didn't recover like before.

    Here's the 2 patterns we used. What would you reccomend?

    #1 - 44ft
    2 2 2 18
    7 7 1 18
    9 9 2 18
    10 10 3 18
    12 12 2 18
    2 2 0 18
    2 2 0 22
    2 2 0 30

    rev
    2 2 0 30
    14 14 3 18
    13 13 2 18
    12 12 4 14
    11 11 3 14
    9 9 1 10
    8 8 1 10
    2 2 0 10



    Pattern #2 Forward
    2 2 2 18
    9 9 3 18
    10 10 3 18
    12 12 2 18
    2 2 0 18
    2 2 0 22
    2 2 0 30

    rev
    2 2 0 32
    14 14 3 18
    13 13 4 18
    12 12 4 14
    11 11 2 10
    2 2 0 10

    Thank you in advance for your help.

  • #2
    If you had a fantastic shot why would you change oils?

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    • #3
      Let me guess, free sample?

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      • #4
        My guess....hoping to go from fantastic shot to absolutely awesome shot.

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        • #5
          I prefer Navigate to Syn Pro

          42 feet
          2-2 2 18
          8-8 2 18
          10-10 4 18
          12-12 4 22
          2-2 0 22 30-42

          2-2 0 30 42-27
          12-12 2 22
          11-11 2 18
          9-9 1 18
          2-2 0 18 10-0

          50 mic stream
          Volume 19.5
          We can adjust the length for more hold if needed
          Please report back how it plays

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          • #6
            Thank you King. We used pattern #1 for our scratch league tonight,Good scores as usual by the same bowlers.

            Pattern #2 we uesed on Thursday for our other leagues, scores way down. That is the one i will tweak.

            And no guys it wasn't a free jug of oil that made us switch.

            We have had trouble with ball calls and other things due to some build up we believe is from SynPro 40. It would cling to everything, belts, carpets, pin cups, etc, and feel real slimmy. Someone advised us to try navigate, so we are.

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            • #7
              Syn Pro is hard to clean off of lanes - that tells you it sticks to everything - JMO

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              • #8
                Try my pattern for both leagues

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                • #9
                  Sorry for the delay in getting back to you but you have hit a homerun again KING.
                  We did not tweak pattern 1 for our scratch league and the scores are good for that league.
                  Pattern 2 we have used for everything else and the scores have increased greatly.
                  Had our first honor score of the year last night.
                  A great shot that is a littleon the hooking side, not real slick.Let's most of the bowlers be able to hook the ball with ease.
                  Also has some mistake room built in.
                  Last nights league is a 4 man league and the shot held up very well for that.
                  Thanks again for your help 8270King, things have worked out great.

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                  • #10
                    You must allow the weaker releases to hook the ball

                    Glad I can be of help!

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