Bowling pins

[tallrick]

Is this the type of pin used in the 60's?

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Since I have been recovering my own pins for some time, I am thinking of finding a way to apply the old style designs. Maybe silk screen or..? The pin in auction looks like it's painted rather than plastic coated.

[Toomany10pins]

Re: Bowling pins

Yes, it is.

[AMF82_70LUVER]

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Actually the Brunswick pin that is advertized on ebay made by Brunswick back in the early to mid 40's. the Brunswick Dura King pins had the same style logo on them and were used during the 60's The earliest maufacture date that I have seen for the Solid Maple Brunswick King pins was 1942. and also the pins back then were painted up until the early 60's when platic coated pins were finally approved for competiton.

[tallrick]

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So for a bowling alley (or center) in the late 50s to early 60's this is the correct pin for the era? When did the plastic coating become used? I had read that it was in the late 50's and lacquer pins would have no longer been produced after then. I know that it's silly to want original looking pins, but they look nice and it's a great way to reuse old pins too. So far using nylon and delrin with an aluminum injection mold, and have tried wrapping pins with plastic sheets and clamping heated molds on, pins seem to last many games. Just plain white though and that's why it would be nice to add a design. Will experiment with injection molding in the future, as well as maybe recycling that ever increasing pile of old surlyn. Also if anyone has the old AMF pin with round "meatball" logo it would be nice to make those too. The only part I reuse is the plastic ring under the pin. Haven't figured an easy way to make that yet.

[CJTX]

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Any questions on bowling pins, ask my good freind Mike F, he has the knowledge on just about every pin ever made.

[AMF82_70LUVER]

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Approximately 1958 was the first Plastic coated pin approved for competition. I am not sure of what company manufactured the first plastic coated pin. but some bowlin center through the early 60's did tent to still use the solid maple bowling pins and yes they were mainly pained white with the company logos on themThe latest date that I found found that AMF still manufactured their wood pins with the round Meatball logog on them was around 1962. That information come fro a copy of the AMF bowling products catalouge that is posted in the picture galleries. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

[marv249]

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I think the last year the Dura King was made. Was 1959 or 1960.
Just testing my memery.

[EJMBOWL]

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A center I worked at had a pin like that autographed by some Brunswick reps who signed it "automatically yours" bill whoever.... that center opened august 1958

[Mike F]

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Tallrick,

The first plastic coated pin made and approved buy the ABC was the Moore Elasti-Kote. Was made by Moore Pin Company in Omaha Nebraska ABC permit #1. Interestingly enough the Brunswick Dura King was permit #5 and AMF's first plastic coated was their Weldcote permit#7. Brunswick used permit #5 up until they quit making the Red Crown &amp; the miXer(damn those were good pins)in the mid 80's. In the mid to late 50's up through the mid 60's there were tons of people making bowling pins. For example there was a Magic Circle Tool &amp; Eng Co that made pins out of MO. I have copies of pin advertisements from the 50's and 60's and the pin permit list from the ABC. Very interesting to see the people making pins in those days outside of AMF, Brunswick and Vulcan. Send me your email addy and I can take pics of some pins I have and send them to you.

Mike F

[jba2mech]

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I have a Dura King, that looks like that king logo, and also one with The B on it too.

[tallrick]

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I was looking at this on the web:

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It seems like this plastic coating is injection molded right over the wood? My thought is that the plastic was formed first, then the pin squeezed between the two halves. Tried the painting process before, using lacquer and it flaked almost immediately. Tried another process using old film and cigarette filters to give more flexibility and it worked better, but still cracked. The technique I used for plastic coating was to wrap a pin in a plastic strip, then clamp and mold. It works but is very slow.

[Toomany10pins]

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Originally posted by marv249:
I think the last year the Dura King was made. Was 1959 or 1960.
Just testing my memery.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nice to see you back here Marv. Don't be a stranger. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

[tallrick]

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So Brunswick pinsetters started out setting lacquer pins? The video where the "king" pins are being set in an early A machine are not plastic covered pins then? Someone from Brunswick mentioned that old plastic coated pins were "dipped". Not sure if this was true but I had some "mixer" pins and they had cardboard under the plastic coating. Looking at all the metal surfaces in an A-2 it seems like anything other than plastic coated would quickly wear away. Even rolling around in an pinwheel or falling into spotting cups would seem to wear finishes fast.

[jba2mech]

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It Does seem wierd that the plastic coated pins werent introduced sooner I suppose companies werent sure just how well the painted pins would hold up in these new automatic pinsetters, But obviously they realized that there needed to be a stronger coating on the pins that wouldnt wear off so easily.