AMF Pinnacle Pin

[hirunwatpiya]

Has anyone heard about the new AMF PINNACLE bowling pin? I think it was just introduced to the market this month. What is the highlight of this pin? Is it going to replace AMFlite II pin? [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

[billman]

Re: AMF Pinnacle Pin

Talked to my salesguy today. They are made out of a harder maple and have a thicker surlyn cover. He said they are warranted for 2 years or 10,000 lines. A bit pricey...$175 per set. I think that is what he said. I might give them a try.


billman

[shamefowjze]

Re: AMF Pinnacle Pin

sounds interesting. i haven't heard about these yet. i'll keep my eye out for those. might be worth a try

alex

[Dutch]

Re: AMF Pinnacle Pin

I thought the spotted owl & a few of his “endangered” friends owned all the good maple that was left.

About 8 or 10 years ago, one of the pin manufacturers (I don't remember which one) told me that was why the quality of everyone's pins was going down… “Nobody has access to “old growth” maple because of the endangered species act.”

So, how has AMF been able to get better wood than everyone else? [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

Dutch

[8270king]

Re: AMF Pinnacle Pin

I agree that it is a hoax...better wood....lmao

Jerry

[Sharpie]

Re: AMF Pinnacle Pin

Either way i got to get my self one for my colection [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

Sharpie

[jkacala]

Re: AMF Pinnacle Pin

us old timers are all searching for better wood!!!
jeff

[TheGMan143]

Re: AMF Pinnacle Pin

On the subject of pins, has anyone tried the all-synthetic Twisters? We got a couple sets, and I guess they work OK, but they sound terrible... a good, solid pocket hit sounds like throwing a brick into a pile of china dishes.

Anyone else have any opinions on them?

We also currently have the Brunswick gold tournament pins... They are considerably heavier than regular pins, but have nice action when hit.

[GPS]

Re: AMF Pinnacle Pin

I have been running Twisters for 1 1/2 years. I don't think they score as good as amflites. AMF pinsetters may have some problems with pinfeed. They get dirty faster but they are almost indistructable.

Mike

[TheGMan143]

Re: AMF Pinnacle Pin

I especially liked the big, bright orange sticker on the side of the Twister boxes, warning you not to use them for range targets... something about them being so hard that bullets will ricochet off of them...

Jeez... and all us rednecks up here thought were were gonna have some high-tech targets to fire at... I'm disappointed now...

"Careful with that, kid... you'll shoot your eye out..." [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

[TheChaser]

Re: AMF Pinnacle Pin

Hey I saw the Pinncle on the AMF site. I guess it is true. They come in White, Silver, and Gold.

[SVLFever]

Re: AMF Pinnacle Pin

Guys,

I have 4 sets and have been testing them for about a week. Had to pull them out this week because of city tourney. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img]

Anyway, they seem OK so far. I like the idea of a 2-yr. warranty. I tested Twisters here and they acted like water soaked logs. Ironically, I had the best 'carry' I ever had at the stadium last season at the ABCs.

They just didn't work well here.

[EDJ]

Re: AMF Pinnacle Pin

We had tested pins for AMF 5 - 6 years ago that was made out of harder maple. We did not see much difference in the durability or pin action at that time. It has been the normal practice for pin manufactures to put the best maple on the outside of the block with the lesser grades on the inside. If the Surlyn is thicker on this new pin, the neck area would be weaker because of less wood. This does appear to be a marketing ploy to compete with the Twister, the higher pricing would also allow for more allowance on warranty. Vulcan has also increased their warranty if the customer will pay more per set.
It is possible to have harder maple for a pin if you take more time in the selection process and purchase a harder grade from the wood lots. This would also increase the price of the pin because of the extra labor involved and higher price for harder maple.

EDJ

[SVLFever]

Re: AMF Pinnacle Pin

My understanding is that they will be about $175 case.

You do bring up an interesting point about the thicker surlyn-skinnier wood argument. I think the thicker surlyn is supposed to be in the belly.

My gripe with the pin manufacturers is that I rotate pins every 5 weeks. I get the short end of the stick on the warranty issue because when a year has come and gone, the pins have only been in for six months. As a business person, I understand the dilemma from their side as well, however. I just wish their was a different way to do warranties.


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[Steve Stafford (JBEES)]

Re: AMF Pinnacle Pin

If the new warranty is 2 years or 10000 lines...what is the warranty on the Amflite II's? Anybody know? And how do they figure lineage? Do they take the centers word for it?

[ February 04, 2002: Message edited by: JBEES ]