Surepik

[Nev]

Wondering if anyone has a Wiring (Circuit) Diagram for a Surepik Ball Return control box

[rivmike]

Wondering if anyone has a Wiring (Circuit) Diagram for a Surepik Ball Return control box

The underside of the cover has some, are you having issues?

[RonB]

Not sure if I am doing this correctly but I am trying to attach a PDF file that might help or need for a SurPic Diagram

[Nev]

Thanks RobB but ours has 3 relays in it
And Thanks rivmike I have looked at the diagram under the cover but it just a wiring diagram and yes Its at work I'm at home
I was more after a Circuit diagram

The problem with one of ours is when the pinsetter is stoped the ballreturn also stops
They have a thermal timer that creates a run on so balls don't get stuck in the underlane
Ive changed the thermal timer and still stops after its been running for over an hour

The Diagram under the lid has also 2 actives (I think) one comes from an outlet under the approach and the other no one can tell me

[rivmike]

I called a buddy of mine,(does'nt remember exactly but) he said on your 30's the delay is in that front box. ( the time delay, the center relay, the transformer, and the in line fuzes) You changed the time delay, he thinks that maybe the transformer. You can have that 24v curcuit be dead and the sur-pik will run because the 24v for the two outside relays comes from the mach. This is not like my 70's. Hope this can help, good luck!

[Nev]

I called a buddy of mine,(does'nt remember exactly but) he said on your 30's the delay is in that front box. ( the time delay, the center relay, the transformer, and the in line fuzes) You changed the time delay, he thinks that maybe the transformer. You can have that 24v curcuit be dead and the sur-pik will run because the 24v for the two outside relays comes from the mach. This is not like my 70's. Hope this can help, good luck!

Thanks again
But there is no transformer in the control box
The 24v supply comes from the box on the side of the pinsetter and is sent down under the lane to the surepic via 3 wires one for each lane and unassumingly the other a neutral

The original problem was a burnt out resistor in the box beside the pinsetter (P Box I think its called)
This problem caused the ball return not to run when it was turned on (had to turn on the other machine to get the ball return to run)
Fixed the resistor and discovered when to turn the machine off the ball return stops no delay