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    Running 8270's I am dropping the head pin out of the cup when setting a rack this is the second head pin in the bin that is falling through all the table adjustments all correct any advise

  • #2
    Try shortening your shuttle connecting rod a couple of turns. Make sure all pins shuttle after this adjustment. Also check that the shuttle "fins" at the head pin aren't spread too wide that would mean your shuttle tubes are bent.
    If it cant be fixed with a hammer, use a bowling pin.

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    • #3
      Lower the high side of the head pin glides 1 inch by drilling new holes

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 8270king View Post
        Lower the high side of the head pin glides 1 inch by drilling new holes
        With the headpin guide tracks in the original position sometimes if the pin does not come off the distributor clean it will stand up in the bin and can jam in the table, breaking stuff or follow the first pin through the shuttle. You can go around adjusting everything until it feeds this pin perfect but that's a lot of work risking screwing something up somewhere else with the distributors. Lower the guide tracks and this will never happen again, all my machines are like this and this is never an issue. With the tracks lower the pin enters the bin flatter so its impossible for it to stand up.

        The only thing you have to watch out for is when the pin lays down in the bin it should not be held up by the guide rollers at the end, the pin should come off the distributor, roll down the track then completely lay in the bin. If it hangs up a little on the bottom rollers just add a washer or two between the guide tracks and the bin stringers at the top bolt, this will bring the tops of the guides closer together but will also spread out the bottoms giving the pin more room to lay down in there. I have had to add washers to a few of mine its no big deal really.

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        • #5
          Different problem but if people have the guide bolts pull through the stringer, Stahl's has a special washer to fix it. ( hole filler)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by clutchplate View Post
            Try shortening your shuttle connecting rod a couple of turns. Make sure all pins shuttle after this adjustment. Also check that the shuttle "fins" at the head pin aren't spread too wide that would mean your shuttle tubes are bent.
            Shorten the rod?? Don't you lengthen it to stop double shuttles? shorter means shuttle sits further forward making it easier for 2nd pin to drop through???
            AS REQUESTED....The all new and VERY improved "super cool" Pin_Head with super hip shades.....

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            • #7
              If there are two pins in that bin pocket, then yes as stated previously check pin holders, pin butts and tubes. If its coming off the distributor as said by tj then I would be checking the distributor head height at the rear of the bin, I like no more than 1/4" clearance from belt guard to the bolt for the 9pin lever, closer the better.

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              • #8
                This is a good idea, lowering the #1 guide tracks...






                This is how it will feed the pins, notice they don't want to flop, bounce, or stand up
                Not my best video but it shows my point. And in case you are wondering this lane almost never has pileups

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                • #9
                  So just the rear bolt is lowered.. what is the best measurement to use from the original hole? 1" said before??

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                  • #10
                    This is how I have done it but everyone has their own way.

                    LOTO

                    Loosen the front bolt slightly and remove the rear bolt.

                    Place the respot cell guage under the guide on the headpin pin head spacer flat so that the edge of the guage lines up with the back edge of the pin head spacer longways this will give you 5/16" clearance as you don't want the guide resting on the spacer

                    Push down to lower the guide until it rests on the guage then through the hole in the stringer mark on the guide where you will drill the hole

                    Remove the guide from the machine drill the hole then install repeat on the other guide

                    Run pins through it several times to see if you need to add washers

                    By using the respot cell/cup/shuttle guage to mark the hole on both of them you will end up with them both sitting at the same height because the measurement will be the same

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Pin_Head View Post
                      Shorten the rod?? Don't you lengthen it to stop double shuttles? shorter means shuttle sits further forward making it easier for 2nd pin to drop through???
                      You are correct!! Just making sure everyone is paying attention.
                      If it cant be fixed with a hammer, use a bowling pin.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rivmike View Post
                        Different problem but if people have the guide bolts pull through the stringer, Stahl's has a special washer to fix it. ( hole filler)
                        I had some of these and they work great. Whats the part#?
                        If it cant be fixed with a hammer, use a bowling pin.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by clutchplate View Post
                          You are correct!! Just making sure everyone is paying attention.
                          DING DING DING so do I win the booby prize lol
                          AS REQUESTED....The all new and VERY improved "super cool" Pin_Head with super hip shades.....

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by clutchplate View Post
                            I had some of these and they work great. Whats the part#?

                            http://www.tuffyparts.com/tuffy/default.html

                            The part number is.....THC..."Tuffy Hole Closer"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tablejam View Post
                              http://www.tuffyparts.com/tuffy/default.html

                              The part number is.....THC..."Tuffy Hole Closer"
                              Thank You TJ
                              If it cant be fixed with a hammer, use a bowling pin.

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