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OK I know this forum is about our machines but I don't want to post this question in any other category because I know that GMs would have different opinion on this issue than us mechanics. Right now I'm looking to hire a new 3rd wheel and I have 2 interviews set up. One is with a guy about 35 with a 17 year track records of labor jobs (tree trimmer, carpenter, car machanic, extra) and last job paid him about 3x more than what I'm offering. The other is with a kid about 21 who work at a car wash and is looking for a job closer to home and makes what I'm offering. I was just wondering what you guys thought about this. Would you rather hire the one with a ton of experience with tools but might bring bad tool use habits with him, who might think he's not being paid enough for the work he's doing, or I might even spend a bunch of time training for him to have another job come along and quit. Or would you rather hire the kid with no experience with tools other than what he's picked up growing up but, also see this job as a better opportunity for him. I've also had people I know personally vouch for both of them. I'm torn on which way to go here and I'm just trying to get some insight on how others would process this issue.
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I start training my new young bloke tomorrow morning he is 18 fresh with NO experience, often they are keen, willing to learn and easy to mould as they haven't yet really picked up any bad work habits, motivation is usually the hard thing in the young ones to find, but treated right that comes with time, the older guy who is getting paid 3x less than he was before will in time get jack of it and will ALWAYS be on the lookout for a new job. So if you want my advice, my opinion is give the young fella a try, he may really appreciate the opportunity to work and may one day become a great tech, after all, we ALL had that very first day on the job......AS REQUESTED....The all new and VERY improved "super cool" Pin_Head with super hip shades..... -
I started working as a technician at 18, and I have found things relatively easy to pick up, and I have seen some older people start and struggle, most having come from better paid jobs. There seemed to be an attitude of 'more work for less money so what's the point'Comment
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I agree, when someone is use to making a better wage, going backwards for a long period of time is slim. You will be training again soon.Originally posted by Pin_Head View PostComment
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I'd say its honestly a crapshoot. mechanical knowledge and experience are good but I have an extremely anal retentive guy on staff right now that can't handle anything that doesn't work as intended or that deviates from the AMF manual. but the 1st day he came in he took the manual home to read it cover to cover and he is the absolute best at running down part numbers and finding deviations in things with calipers and the like.
At the same time I have a young kid who doesn't know jack about anything and is constantly causing problems but he's trying so hard to do it right, and lets be honest. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to run calls or to not put things together backwards. but every mech/tech has done their fair share of screw ups.
what I do is put them on 30 day probation when they start. no access to any tools but channel locks and start from the beginning. IMO the best option would be to clone myself so everything ran perfect all the time and I could tag out when I've had enough of myself. but in reality you cant be there all the time to handle all the problems.When you know what to do, everything is easy.Comment
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New hires is one of the toughest desision to make. I went through several years of rolling the dice before it didn't come up craps. Sometimes you're in a jam, and you have to hire on the pulse qualification. Sometimes you can pick and choose. I've done both. And things aren't always the way that they appear. Like craps, you just have to keep trying 'til you get lucky.Originally posted by Grit View PostI can't even spell Brunsw-ick anymore!!!Comment
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That's how I started pretty much, I agree go with the younger guy, maybe he will have the stuff to become a real asset to you.Originally posted by Pin_Head View Post
Yep I've screwed up many things like that.Originally posted by Grit View Post
We all wish we could do that!Originally posted by Grit View PostComment
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Well gentlemen thanks for your advice. I will definitely put it to good use. I just don't want to do what we did at the center I came up in and had to train 5 people in a 2 years to finally find someone good. That was a very long two years. Even just as a second wheel.Comment
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Have you interviewed them both yet???? If not, you may get some "feelings" one way or the other during that process.
I'd lean slightly towards the younger guy, but wouldnt close the door on the other fellow.* this space left blank intentionally *Comment
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