respot cells "out of time"

[laneman61]

has anyone ever had their respot cells seem out of time? like closing too late on the pins and the pins slipping through? has a lane doing that and the timing for the respot cam is good. even tried advancing the table a bit.

[Pin_Head]

Check the pawl gap, also had a similar issue, turned out the plate the the 3 springs attach to had snapped on 1 side causing a loss of tension. Also make sure respot link arm is straight and spot/respot cam is ok...

[70/70]

RC finger maybe catching on another carb link?

[herp444]

would also make sure you dont have a tight cell

[Tablejam]

The timing of the cells closing and opening can seem late if the gap between the finger link and shifter cam is too large.

I also agree with all the above as well.

But, if for some reason the table drive is not timed close enough with the spot/respot cam this can happen and advancing the table drive (making the table get there sooner than the spot/respot cam) will make it worse. Retarding or delaying the table drive some will get the timing closer.

But first you must make sure the usual adjustments are correct or at least close and the cells move freely on the table, etc.

[Toby]

Also, older machines function best with the pawl as close as possible to the cam. If you're using the gap suggested in the manual, try creeping it in a little closer. As long as it doesn't touch the peak of the cam as you open and close the cells at 355, you'll be in good shape and you'll get faster action from the cells.

Toby

[Tablejam]

Also, older machines function best with the pawl as close as possible to the cam. If you're using the gap suggested in the manual, try creeping it in a little closer. As long as it doesn't touch the peak of the cam as you open and close the cells at 355, you'll be in good shape and you'll get faster action from the cells.

Toby

That's a good tip Toby and I'll add the way I do that is crank the table to top dead center, then set your gap to about 1/4"-1/8", that way you get the most drive to the cells yet there is still enough of a gap for the finger link to flip during respotting.

[Rep]

A tighter pawl gap always worked well for me also. I went closer than you TJ. I did as you did and set just a little more than a daylight gap between the pawl and the fattest part. Mine if anything was closer to 1/8" but I'd say it was even tighter than that. Worked perfectly for me but as always all machines and centers are different

[laneman61]

I think i have something bent. when the table spots pins, just before the table gets to top dead center the respot cells close just a little bit. will let everyone know what i find in the morning.

[Pin_Head]

Yeah Rep, I often had a lot my gaps set at just marginally over 1/16", found like said b4 on older worn machines they often prefer a smaller gap

[Rep]

Yeah Rep, I often had a lot my gaps set at just marginally over 1/16", found like said b4 on older worn machines they often prefer a smaller gap

Yep! That always worked for me. I actually set one by the book once, the cells didn't even lock, not even close! LOL

[Pin_Head]

Yep! That always worked for me. I actually set one by the book once, the cells didn't even lock, not even close! LOL

Lets face it Rep, as we all often find, the book only works pretty much on machines that are basically new, they are usually far too old to use "book" adjustments...

[Tablejam]

Book smook!

I think i have something bent. when the table spots pins, just before the table gets to top dead center the respot cells close just a little bit. will let everyone know what i find in the morning.

Interesting. If the cells close slightly as the table is going up from spotting usually that means the respot rod is too long. During spotting at BDC the finger link pulls away from the shifter cam. As the table goes back up it will move back toward the shifter cam and then back away. When the respot rod is adjusted "correctly" the finger link should never touch the shifter cam in this situation. However, if the respot rod is too long (or other things are going on) the finger link will push the shifter cam some and close the cells slightly as the table is going up from spotting.

I would check the respot rod adjustment for this issue.