Dizzy mod ideas

[StunedM]

I have been thinking of doing a dizzy mod for a stationary O pan and distributor funnels, something very similar to the 90 XLI. I was thinking of using the original O pan and making a few tweaks to it so it can be mounted to the pin wheel cover, possibly shorten the O pan a little, make the rolling point of the O pan a little more steep for the pins to slide down and make the sides slightly higher to avoid any orientation or over rotating issues.

Just curious if anyone has any pointers or tips, maybe someone has even done something similar before.

Thanks in advance.

[keeth]

I have a pan that I separated into the three pieces but was worried what might happen to the adjustment of the back piece during the first pan jam. A flipover mount from the backend could help so that the night people would have an escape route and replace the entire dist with the pan on it.

[amfuk]

I wouldnt adjust the Opan in that way and i wouldnt increase the angle the pins roll off. I think that would give you more trouble, Im guessing you have 70's?? There is lots of other things you can do to the dizzy before you do anything so big. But thats only my opinion.

[Tablejam]

Increasing the angle slightly and adding taller support guides to the sides sounds promising.

[Kat]

I have been thinking of doing a dizzy mod for a stationary O pan and distributor funnels, something very similar to the 90 XLI. I was thinking of using the original O pan and making a few tweaks to it so it can be mounted to the pin wheel cover, possibly shorten the O pan a little, make the rolling point of the O pan a little more steep for the pins to slide down and make the sides slightly higher to avoid any orientation or over rotating issues.

Just curious if anyone has any pointers or tips, maybe someone has even done something similar before.

Thanks in advance.

Do a search for "mods" in the AMF Forum. You will be surprised at how many mods have been discussed and shared.

[StunedM]

I have a pan that I separated into the three pieces but was worried what might happen to the adjustment of the back piece during the first pan jam. A flipover mount from the backend could help so that the night people would have an escape route and replace the entire dist with the pan on it.

I like the sound of having the stationary pan being flip able so the change over of a dizzy (original or modded) would be a breeze if and when required. Only Issue would be devising a latching method that would make the pan as solid as possible wile keeping it quickly and easily flip able.

Increasing the angle slightly and adding taller support guides to the sides sounds promising.

I am considering making the roll off point slightly steeper so the pin moves away from the pan quicker and drops as close to the belt as possible at the top apex of the main dizzy pulley which is also directly above the center rotation point of the dizzy, so in theory when the dizzy is at its most furthest movements (7&10 pin) it would pull the pins away from the pan rather than just dropping the pins on the belt and use the taller pin guides to ensure that every pin will constantly hit the belt and continue on its path to the bins regardless of how much over rotation the pins have.

[8270king]

I have had one (1) pin jam in 17 days

How?
1. Roller clutch
2. Poly V belts
3. Ring tube tensioner
4. Bin bumpers removed and head pin supports hammered in for better shuttling

That is all you need

[Pin_Head]

I have had one (1) pin jam in 17 days

And this my friend is why you are the KING!!

Once school holidays are over I will start on the ring tubes spring tensioners, I was mighty impressed how solid your pinwheels were when I visited your "palace" Jerry....

[House]

Jerry, have you used the Stahls conn and eccen rollers? They are one of the best products I have ever bought. Really improve carriage stability.

[Pin_Head]

Are Stahl's different to the QAMF rollers? if so in what way House?

[8270king]

Thank Pinnie

The roller clutch fixes indexing issues

A good belt fixed traction issues

The ring tube tensioners fix the sloppiness

[8270king]

Have not used any other rollers

Some of my carriage tubes are bent badly - I just run the rollers loose - no issues

[StunedM]

I have had one (1) pin jam in 17 days

How?
1. Roller clutch
2. Poly V belts
3. Ring tube tensioner
4. Bin bumpers removed and head pin supports hammered in for better shuttling

That is all you need

I have never heard of a roller clutch, any more info on these? 90% of my M/C's run the V belts and Id like to do the ring tube tensioner as i have heard many good things about them, getting parts from sarls is out of the question as it takes to long to get parts from another country and cost also becomes a issue due to freight and i know there is a way to make my own but only issue is how...
Do you get much extra pin scaring by removing the bin bumpers? assuming your referring to the grommets in the bin assy, and what do you mean by hammering in the head pin supports?

[Tablejam]

I made my own tensioned from an idea by someone else on here and it works well.

[House]

Are Stahl's different to the QAMF rollers? if so in what way House?

Yes. Stahls are superior. Their rollers follow the contours of the carriage tubes perfectly and make the carriage move super smooth. I swear by them.