Dose this happen to anyone else? and why?

[Guest]

Your center runs fine for months. Then out of the blue you get 2 to 3 obvious kidney/turnpan problems. Like headfirst feeds or swinging off the pan too much. It just can't be a fluke that they happen all at once. I usually chalk it up to weather or something silly.

[Coors]

Re: Dose this happen to anyone else? and why?

I usually chalk it up to too thin a viscosity of lane conditioner, or just plain ol' too much. At Least too much to where the oil is migrating insanely and quickly to the pindecks, and getting the pins oily which allows them to fly around the orientation pans faster than a speeding bullet, and more powerful than a locomotive...sorry a Superman flashback...lol

also im assuming no one is changing pins

[bowlingpinman]

Re: Dose this happen to anyone else? and why?

coors is right lane oil too much ,to long,or maybe stripping isnt getting lanes clean due to malfunction of mach. ive had in summer high humidity cause pins to stick in pin wheel when that happens i turn on dehumidifiers.


hope this helps

[GPS]

Re: Dose this happen to anyone else? and why?

I agree with coors about oil being the problem. I rotate pins every 6 weeks. No problems for the first 4 wks, but the last weekor two pis start to flip off the o-pan.

[GPS]

Re: Dose this happen to anyone else? and why?

Hey guys, that should read PINS fly off the o-pan.

[Guest]

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GPS,, I like it the way is reads !!!!

new pins are a pain ,too-flip right off the belt-over the right side..had to lower the kidney....

[Guest]

Re: Dose this happen to anyone else? and why?

put some isopropyl in a spray bottle,,every few days spray the pins laying in the bin--kinda washes 'em some..

[Guest]

Re: Dose this happen to anyone else? and why?

I've had this problem too. I find that on rainy days on some machines the pin wouldn't relase out of the pin wheel on time causing it to either go completely over or onto the pan head first. The kidney was all the way down on the top and bottom mount causing the pin to wiggle slightly as it entered the kidney. Causing it to kinda seat itself. I guess the pins swell slightly in the humidity making the problem worse. When I raised the kidney so that the pins wouldn't get caught they would roll off the distributor. I fixed that by taking a bin shock mount, drilling a hole and mounting it on the front most part of the pan at the very edge. The pin now rolls off, just touches the shock mount, and goes on it's merry way. I've now put these things everywhere and decreased my dist. jams in an 80 lane center to about 2 per night.

[Coors]

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that's a good idea ffej! I'll have to try it.

i've always bent up the ends of the pan with channel locks.

[Guest]

Re: Dose this happen to anyone else? and why?

I used to bend the pans too, but as you know sometimes the bottom can contact the trip rollers if bent too far. Also a bent pan can affect the way a pin swinging the other way gets on. This solves those problems and works like a charm.

[Coors]

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Hey ffej.

mounted the bin mounts to my orientation pan and didn't have one pin jam on 19 all weekend...thanx

tho my first attempt resulted in the corners of the pan lookin like swiss cheese

this little tip has my thumbs up

[Coors]

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it's a shame some little Vantage or AMF geek will steal the idea and claim it as his own...

have no fear...ill always know...That guy on the internet came up with it...LOL

[masternut]

Re: Dose this happen to anyone else? and why?

Hey ffejBowl,
If you don't mind please send instructions on the mount idea...
Thanks in advance
Peanut

[Guest]

Re: Dose this happen to anyone else? and why?

Hey coors,
Strangely enough my problem lane was 19 also. Our unlucky number!!! I should print this page so I can sue if they steal my ideas haha.


[This message has been edited by ffejbowl (edited 11-08-1999).]

[bowlingpinman]

Re: Dose this happen to anyone else? and why?

ffejbowl

solve humidity problem with de humidifiers.run them when humidity is high

you put new pins in doesent always matter what you do with kidney pin will stick in wheel on certain machs dehumidifiers work.

your idea works for pins rolling over pan when using rough top belts this can happen too.i mount guilds extending pan and blocking pin from going round.when this problem happens pin usually are laying behind mach.