82-30's dist. trouble

[Androooo]

I know there must some 30's guys out there, even though most of the talk is about 70's or later.

The main trouble we have here is occasionally a pin will come off the dist. and lay over the track, and fall into it's cup. Quite often it's the 3pin or the 9pin

We have checked everything on these M/C's. Head level, clutch tension, tracks, index levers but to no avail.

Anyone got any ideas?

[Lampie]

Re: 82-30's dist. trouble

Allthough I don,t work on a '30 for sometime and I don't remember all the names this looks like an index fault; are you sure that the point(fab. made) on the gear that's running over the dist. track is on the same point as the latch(or whatever the name is) from the gear assy?

good luck(I think Bold Ed Fox will Know this)

Martin

[Ed Fox]

Re: 82-30's dist. trouble

Hey Lampie, more like TIRED Ed Fox. By the way, your OOP’s story was hilarious!

Andrew, IM taking for granite that you have tracks w/o ears?
Getting the pins into the cups can be a real challenge! With the amount of oil were using today were forced to use high grip belts and in return its hard to get the 3,6,9,10 pins in with out any problems.
In my opinion you have to case handle each machine. I started using the H.G belts two years ago and it was a PITA in the beginning. Of course you have the left to right adj. with the along gated holes in the brackets. There of some help. Two, when setting the back up bearing at the 5 pin you need to pay close attention to how the 3,6,9,10 pins are feeding. If your hitting the track at the 9 you can advance the dist. a tooth past center, just make sure afterwards the 8 pin clears the track, this might also cause a problem at the 3,6. If its the 3,6 giving you trouble you can retard the back up bearing a tooth or two. You can play around with the head level a little but of course you’re limited there also.

Make sure your wire way covers are on, and your pins are clean. Dirty pins have a harder time slipping in to the 3,6.

Other then that you just have to accept it. When 30’s were designed there weren’t any surlynn coated pins and we weren’t using 100 units of oil in the heads. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img]

If you want you can give me a call. 888-435-6289.

Ed [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img] Man I love that smile!

[Lampie]

Re: 82-30's dist. trouble

Oh yeh,
and don't forget the excentric(pfff I don't think this is English)bold that's moving your trip lever assembly. Very often the trip lever assy is damaged or not straight anymore, giving bad indexing.
I Think I'm talkin'Double Dutch now..

No more Fosters for me today...Hey Mark

Time for bed

El Glampos

[cobow]

Re: 82-30's dist. trouble

your dist head could also be worn where the index lever hits against.this will make yourindex lever sit higher which can change the angle the pin goes into the cup(expecially if you have a tight index spring on)
cheers
cobow

[mechanic8230]

Re: 82-30's dist. trouble

Index lever could be over sprung too. If the casting is worn badly at lever impact point try using a cup liner clip to shim it out. It works for me. Especially since no one makes the head casting anymore. Stock up on them if you can.

[toon30s]

Re: 82-30's dist. trouble

ANDREW, YOU MIGHT ALSO TRY MOVING THE DIST. TRACK SIDE TO SIDE. GOOD LUCK!

[Androooo]

Re: 82-30's dist. trouble

Thanks for the help guys......Still have constant problems with them......so many dropped pins on spotting.....hopefully 3 more years, and we won't have to put up with this crap...AMF AUSTRALIA said that they would upgrade our machines, but when they do it, I'll belive it.

[Guest]

Re: 82-30's dist. trouble

Andrew we have the same problem in our centre and COBOW told us that our head castings were worn and that the trip levers were sitting too high. This has proven to be corect as the distributors that i have had the head castings built up on are no longer a problem. Wont be long and i will have eliminated this problem alltogether.

Duck

[Lampie]

Re: 82-30's dist. trouble

Andrew,

You can say everything about 8230 machines but they aint no crap!

Martin

By the way most problems with the head castings can be solved by tightning the allen wrench(imbus)scews on the bushings..a lot of mechanics forget these 4 screws and if they are loose..forget good indexing and goodbye to your bushings.

[ May 13, 2001: Message edited by: lampie ]

[Ed Fox]

Re: 82-30's dist. trouble

On second thought your in Australia, so dont call the number I gave you!!!!! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]

Charlie [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

[Guest]

Re: 82-30's dist. trouble

Quote:]Originally posted by Ed Fox:
On second thought your in Australia, so dont call the number I gave you!!!!! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]

Charlie [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img][/QUOTE]

Cheap Bastard!!!!!!!

Also, if all else fails, you can try the patented Ed Fox gravity test.

Instructions:

Remove distributor from machine.
Stand completely vertical on catwalk.
Release dist. to the floor.
Replace dist. in machine.
Adjust as needed.
:p