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    Hey there was a Brunswick machine Forum about it, how about the AMF Machines.
    What modifications have you made to the pinspotters to make them run faster, better, and easier (E.I. interlock sweep, front end cycle switch,table run)

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    interesting topic!!!!!

    here's on:

    Replacing the rubber on the up-tracks on the ball lift.

    use the brunswick track cover, the red kind has worked the best for me.

    we use PBL's, with that mod we have compleatly eliminated any spinning ball problem because of excessive oil.

    have tried this mod on kickers with no problems.

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    • #3
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      Hey Doc,
      Are the rail covers that you got from Brunswick made of gum rubber, or urethane. I put the ones on that came with the PBL Conversion Kit and they are already starting to wear out on the bottom. How do they last?

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        [This message has been edited by russb (edited 04-09-2000).]

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        • #5
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          Hey guys, had the same problem. I use the original hard rubber covers for the first 5 or 6 inches then use the soft white/gray brand B covers.

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          • #6
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            Ken,

            The gum rubber type, it has a light covering on it. Used the red and grey/white kind.

            First we replace the first 12 inches from the exit. that worked great. the problem was the bottom would start to split. rotate it to an unused area.

            Then we just covered all the rails.

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            • #7
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              Hi guys

              A cheap and easy bodge to help reduce ball spinning without having to buy the Ball Lift spring tensioner.
              Take a spring (the same as is used for the belt tensioners on the carpet pulley) hook it over the top yoke on the Ball Lift. There should be an oval gap on your backend kickbacks just below the curtain rod mounts. Hook them from there right over to the oval on the next machine. Looks messy but it works well and helps compensate for dodgy shocks. It can also be done by drilling a small hole on the bumper support plate and hooking a small spring straight onto the yoke (same for each side).

              Cheers

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              • #8
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                I am going to change over to the Brunswick covers as soon as possible. What other mods have people made to their machines? Has anyone used the sweep/table interlock switch and if so, how do you set it up. I am really interested in this idea, but need help setting it up.

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                • #9
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                  Ken,

                  sweep/table interlock switch???

                  I'll assume you want a way to clear interlocks without having to get on top of the machine.

                  If you have an extra push button in the mechs control panel (old 2nd ball stepper switch) it can be used.

                  connection to either TB or SC on the normally open side(?). Connection can be done in the wireway with double spade connectors.

                  I personally have not converted any of my machine to do this, I have very few interlocks. Plus I use seimens contactors so a comb or a pencil is no required anymore to lift the contactor.

                  Doc

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                  • #10
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                    I have an interlock switch running through my 2nd ball stepper buttons...

                    i like it ;0) dont have to get up on the machine...or stick my hands in a chassis...just turn off the sweep....push the 2nd ball stepper until the table is clear and flip the sweep back on and we're in buisness...lol

                    my next project will be a table run button on the switch panel also...lol

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                    • #11
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                      one of my pet peaves are the orientation in the bin Pin Jams...meaning ya know...head of the 4 pin bounces into the 7 pin & causes a PJ...or the 2 into the 4....or the 3 into the 5....etc

                      well after adjusting up, down, left, right, in, out, til i was blue in the face...i just started taking old array assembly covers...drilling holes in them and mounting them in the bin to act as bin stringers....in other words a few of the bin pockets in my house are Double Deep..i could probably put 30 pins in a few of my machines...LOL..Ill post a pic of what i mean later.

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                      • #12
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                        The best mod I can think of for 8270's are the Omega-Tec conversion for the 5 board. For an 82/30 the Omega-Tec MK30 conversion for the stepper. Next best mod for both models is the PBL conversions with Stahls extra thick tube covers (after 2 years, no signs of wear but dirt!!!).

                        Kelvin, I’ve used your anti-yo yo solution before. But, if the upper part of the ball lift gets twisted or your running an oooold belt, it will fly off!

                        Coors those Westing Houses motors must really coast!! My nationals only have about 10 interlocks a year. It's never even occurred to me to install an interlock switch.

                        TECH

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                        • #13
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                          actually the interlock switches came about out of boredom..not necessity...much like my pit plug...LOL

                          but i will say whenever anything starts to go with a west sweep motor..interlock is the result...

                          with all my hook ups & gadgets i have....everyone swears that if you push a sequence of buttons on my panels...beer starts flowing...they just havent figured out which lane the beer taps hooked up to yet...lol

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                          • #14
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                            Hey Guys,

                            What do you use for an emergency start switch? I wish I could take credit for this one but I can't. The guy before me took a Brunswick mercury switch and glued it inside a plastic tube and glued it to a flat piece of plastic at an angle. You just slide it in the back of the cushion and hook up the wires. It takes less than 5 seconds to install and will stay in place for days. It never false triggers either.

                            Just a tip.
                            And it only costs about $25.

                            TECH

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                            • #15
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                              Why do you need an emergency start switch, it only takes a couple of minutes to change the start switch out as it is. I just stand behind the machine and cycle it until I can change the switch. TIP... Take the whole switch assembly out with the 1/4 in bolts, it's much quicker.

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