MAGIC CIRCLE BALL RETURN

[cobow]

WITH TODAYS AMOUNT OF OIL ON THE LANES OUR OLD WHEELS CANT PICK UP THE BALL PROPERLY. TO GET AROUND THIS I CUT OFF THE EDGES OF A BIKE TIRE AND SLIP THIS ON WITH GLUE & STAPLES. THIS ONLY GETS ME 10-12 MONTHS BEFORE THE OIL EATS THE TYRE. ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER IDEAS?

[GPS]

Re: MAGIC CIRCLE BALL RETURN

Hey Cobow, try this. Take the block of rubber that bolts to the cushion hanger weldment cut about 1 1/2 to 2 inches straight across the bottom. Put this rubber block behind the wide ball check belt and wedge it in as far down as possible. You want to retain its curved shape and put in as low in the return as possible. Use the u bolts and metal straps to secure it to the ball check belt frame. Here is the idea behind it. The ball is traveling at enough speed to get past the buldge in the ball check belt but will not go back the other way. I have put 10-12 balls on the lazy susan, thrown a ball down the lane an watched the returning ball push a ball off the return onto the floor. Good luck, let me know what happens.
Mike

[Guest]

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Is there a picture or a drawing if the idea i've been havening underlane problen this would be a great help
Quote:]Originally posted by cobow:
WITH TODAYS AMOUNT OF OIL ON THE LANES OUR OLD WHEELS CANT PICK UP THE BALL PROPERLY. TO GET AROUND THIS I CUT OFF THE EDGES OF A BIKE TIRE AND SLIP THIS ON WITH GLUE & STAPLES. THIS ONLY GETS ME 10-12 MONTHS BEFORE THE OIL EATS THE TYRE. ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER IDEAS?[/QUOTE]

[cobow]

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Mike
Thanks for the idea. Will try it out asap and let you know.
cobow

[cobow]

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Dameat
Will e mail you with what we are using at the moment & the ins and outs of it
Cobow

[Guest]

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Great idea Mike. Makes me wish I still had lazy susans to try it out. NOT!!!

[Guest]

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Great idea Mike. Makes me wish I still had lazy susans to try it out. NOT!!!

[Dutch]

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Mike,
Please help
I've been trying to put your idea into practice but could you please specify what part of the frame you're bolting the rubber pad to & which way the curve goes. Every time I think I've got it something keeps going wrong. Either the bolts get in the way or it stops the light balls before they reach the wheel.

[GPS]

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Hey Dutch, to start wit take the rubber pad PN 070 001 432 and cut an inch to an inch and a half off the end. Put the pad in the return flexing or arching the pad to cause the wide leather ball check belt to buldge a little. If you cut more off the pad the ball check belt will buldge less. Remember this pad lays cross ways in the return (perpendicular to the ball check belt) Push as close to the wooden roller as possible. If light balls don't get past the buldge cut more off the end of the pad. The idea is that the ball speed is great enough to make the ball go past the buldge but once past will not go back down the upsweep track. As I recall I used the U-bolts and straps that hold the pad on the hanger weldment in the pinsetter. Good luck Dutch, let me know if you still have problems.

[Dutch]

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Mike,
Got my "prototype" in yesterday. Looks like it's going to work great! Of coarse, only time will tell if I got it right. I'll let you know in a week. We have a group that bowls Wednesdays. I have to sit up front & just go from one pair to another the whole time their bowling. If it works for them it'll work for anything.
Thanks,
Dutch

[Dutch]

Re: MAGIC CIRCLE BALL RETURN

Mike,

IT WORKED!!!!
On a pair that used to get 3 - 5 undergrounds a night we haven't had a single one since I put your idea into practice on May 31!

Thank you

Dutch

[GPS]

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Hey Dutch, happy to hear of your sucess with the ball return. Put in a couple more on your problem returns and life with magic circles might not be so bad. Good luck.

Mike