Is it a chassis problem??? You decide and suggest!!!

[doc1who-R]

Hello fellow Mechs-n-Techs,

Problem:

When the pinsetter is in the "0" position,machine powered up, You
can trigger the machine by triggering the machine next to it (I.E. lane 1 on trigger on trigger of Lane 2).

Disconnection of all "known ways" to trigger the machine have been disconnect, machine still triggers.

There is a noticable delay of about 10-20 seconds before it triggers.

This problem is intermittent.

If it is a chassis problem, what in the chassis is causing the problem?

What is your conclusion??????

[cobow]

Re: Is it a chassis problem??? You decide and suggest!!!

doc
what type of pinspotter ?
what scoring ect
have you swapped chassi's
depending on your setup a delay of 10 sec or more could be a ball underlane running over your reset wires or something silly like that. more info could be helpful
cobow

[doc1who-R]

Re: Is it a chassis problem??? You decide and suggest!!!

Pinsetters:

82-70 SS (omega-tek converted)

Scoring:

Accuscore II


10 frame switch has been disconnected in the AMC box.

Swapping chassis cures the problem, What could be in the chassis to cause the problem?

[Joe]

Re: Is it a chassis problem??? You decide and suggest!!!

Sounds like to me if the problem is cured when you switch chassie that you have a loose connection somewhere in the chassie that causes the problem. I had a simmular problem and it ended up being a relay in the chassie. Sorry I can't help more.,

[Jimmy Jam]

Re: Is it a chassis problem??? You decide and suggest!!!

I would test that omega board in a different chassis.
The problem might be in the r.p.o. box (When the machine cycles by itself does it score ?).
You might try disconnecting the gray wire on t2 that goes to the sp relay (you'll lose instructomat).
You could also try grounding the ground leg wire of the 10th frame switch.

[Ron]

Re: Is it a chassis problem??? You decide and suggest!!!

It seems like I had a problem like this, and it was at the control desk. I don't know what your set up is, but in my control desk console behind the switches, actually wired to the switch, there is a thin square device attached ( sorry I can't remember what it is called ) to the back and wired in. Well anyway it was burnt out, and when I replaced it the problem was solved. I don't know if this can be the problem, but in my case it worked. (Maybe just a coincident.

[vinson]

Re: Is it a chassis problem??? You decide and suggest!!!

we had this problem when we put in used 70s 2 years ago. Just about every pair of lanes would cycle each other occasionally. It wound up being in the Creative Tech. boards as soon as I started experementing with my old 5 boards it went away. As far as I know part of the reason was 36 volts going through the 12 volt system,even with machine at 0 I was getting it through the respot cells. Hook that chassis up and see what your low voltage reading is at the respot cells. My wiring was all correct it took me a few months to figure it out.With Omegs tec and 5 boards Voltage is right.

[Guest]

Re: Is it a chassis problem??? You decide and suggest!!!

Vinson,
What kind of machines did you have before? 82/30's?
Do you automatic scoring? Was or is it Accu-score plus?
Just curious..... reminds me of a problem i once had.