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    I was asked to look at some AS-80 scoring problems in a sister house that has 82-30's. The first thing I noticed were the pins. They were filthy and scratched up. They have about 3000 lines on them but look like 12,000 lines with all the pin damage. The damage is everywhere on the pins. Someone suggested to carpet the "snow plows" to reduce the damage. Is this a realistic solution or are we looking for something else. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

    Thanks...Steve
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    Re: Pin damage in 30's

    JBEES,pin damage If the center is running with toggle pin wheel's chance'e are the toggle assy are shot. This causes most of the pin damage in the very begining. The pin's fall out of the pin wheel at 11:00 (bowlers point)on the even lane and 1:00 on the odd lane and they slam the plow's and the cushion weldment. There are numurous thing's that cause the pin damage though. Weld's on plow's, some mechanic's have replaced the OEM cup bolt's with 5/16 hex head bolt's. This will cause some serious pin damage while feeding pin's. Cracked cup's, bad orintation pan's, burr's at the pin counter,and the obvious gutter's and kickback's.
    As far as the filth goes there probably useing the OEM gate's carpet. The oil attack's the rubber and in return it make's a big mess out of the pin's.
    Just a sugestion, aim the scanner a little lower in to the neck of the pin.

    Ed

    [This message has been edited by Ed Fox (edited 01-28-2001).]
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      Re: Pin damage in 30's

      Thanks Ed...will look for these items. As far as aiming lower...there isn't a good spot anywhere left on the pins. I'm trying to round up some decent pins from other houses in the area.I just don't want them tore up as bad as these.

      Steve

      [This message has been edited by JBEES (edited 01-28-2001).]
      TSM & TSM Training Development
      Main Event Entertainment
      480-620-6758 for help or information

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        Re: Pin damage in 30's

        We had a lot of same problems you describe with our 30's, best solution was to get 70's.
        I agree on all pin damage items, except dirty pins is probably due more to a leaky table motor that drips onto the table, it is sometimes hard to spot and can make the pins filthy real fast. We are using same carpets in the 70's with no problem of dirty pins.
        Ron

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          Re: Pin damage in 30's

          Gee ron...If getting new machines was an option, I don't think I would have asked the question. But, thanks for the advice on the table motor.

          Steve
          TSM & TSM Training Development
          Main Event Entertainment
          480-620-6758 for help or information

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            Re: Pin damage in 30's

            Our other center has 16 year-old 70,s and started getting "blackened" pins. Turns out the problem was in the carpet belts. If this is an "across-the-house" problem, and your carpets are the gates with that little 1/4" wide black strip at the very edge of the seam, that black transfers easily onto the pins, and more so as the seam starts to open up.

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