starter pads

[the old dirt man]

hi guys just signed on to bowl tech
just wanted to know what type starter pads
you have the best luck with in the ball exit
i was using the gray amf,but they don`t last
anymore with all the oil on the lanes.
they get soft and flat?? some others i tried
are to hard, balls spin on them.i usually
sand them some it helps some.any ideas
krudweiser

[8270king]

Re: starter pads

Krud,

I agree they do not last. I put some urethane ones in at another center and have not checked on them. I will try to update. I think they were "v"

king

[Ed Fox]

Re: starter pads

Krud, stick to the grey rubber one's from AMF. They might not last near as long as urathane but with today's lane condition's you need something soft. (no joke inserted here) [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

Ed

[ February 16, 2001: Message edited by: Ed Fox ]

[pat]

Re: starter pads

Hey welcome. I agree with Ed stick to the grey ones. They work the best for me. They seem to grab the ball a little better.

Good luck
Pat

[the old dirt man]

Re: starter pads

how long are your start pads lasting??
mine only last about 6 months then they
disintegrate, I guess it must be the type
of lane oil were using?? I know they don't
cost that much, but they used to last forever! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

[8270king]

Re: starter pads

It is not the type of oil we use - it is the amount. We put about 5 times the amount of oil we use to use just 10 years ago. The oil just breaks down the rubber. I noticed before installing the humpy that after a few mos. the balls would not come back. The pad would be practicially gone. Screw starter pads - just convert to humpback.

humpin' king

[John_Galt]

Re: starter pads

Hmmm...
We use Legends (in large amounts - about 8 ounces for a 24-laner) and kickers.
We have NEVER (in my 2+ year employment there) had to replace a starter pad - just check and clean once in a while.
They are the OEM gray ones. Go figure.

Good luck, sorry yer having this problem.

[the old dirt man]

Re: starter pads

you think mabe the new ones I've been getting
arent made like ones from 10 -20 years ago.
somebody had changed most of the start pads
with a mix max about 3 years ago before I
got there and they arent fer -hit you know
what I mean. and yes I like pbl better but
the owner think we don't have that much
trouble with ball calls. so he won't spring
for pbl's thanks for the input

[Jeff Ruckey]

Re: starter pads

Glen The best starter pads I ever used was HI-LINE THAY WERE RED,AND GREAT--TILL THAY
MELTED DOWN

[the old dirt man]

Re: starter pads

gee m,triangle you think the king could be wrong? about the amount! we have used at least four different types of oil in the last
few years, we are using defense at this time.
and it seems to be worst with this oil,and
we run about 50 to 60 lines per bed per day.
we had to mix the cleaner stronger to get it
off the lanes.??

[John_Galt]

Re: starter pads

hmmm... No. The King is never wrong. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif[/img] After all, he is the King.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was indeed a lowering of quality in AMF manufacture. Those red ones that Jeff (welcome aboard) was describing might be the ticket. I haven't got a Stahl's catalog - do they have something? They've always got the best stuff, or so I've heard.
Yer probably right.

PBL's are cool, but I've kind of got a sentimental attachment to my boys that pull the ball in. Speaking of Stahl's, I hear they have a shorter kicker shaft so you can replace a roller IN the machine. ???

[ February 18, 2001: Message edited by: AMF Magic Triangle ]

[Coors]

Re: starter pads

Quote:]Originally posted by AMF Magic Triangle:
I hear they have a shorter kicker shaft so you can replace a roller IN the machine. ???
[/QUOTE]

you dont need to buy new shafts....simply hack saw your current ones at the notch.

However...you cant/shouldnt use the reverse contact rollers on them.

[Ed Fox]

Re: starter pads

Quote:]Originally posted by Coors:
you dont need to buy new shafts....simply hack saw your current ones at the notch.

However...you cant/shouldnt use the reverse contact rollers on them.[/QUOTE]

The short shaft only work's if your useing football kicker's, if your useing full contact and have your kicker assy. max out you still cant get them off.

On the older rubber starter pad's there is a differance in the one's their making today.I have a few of the older ones and they never wear, the new one's we get aprox. 6 month's out of them. We still dont really have any ball call problem's. I called all of the local suppliers and bought out all of the Eastren kicker's they had in stock. IM sitting on about 40 kicker's. These will get me a couple more year's. IM going to install a Humpy soon and let it run for a year or so.

Ed

[the old dirt man]

Re: starter pads

well I think the red ones jeff is talking
about they quit making about 15yrs ago.then
they changed to green urethane.is hi line
still in business haven't seen on of there
catologs in a long time? I used to use there
paddles, when they were red they were good.
then when changed to the green they didn't
last any more, started cracking in a year
or so. thanks for all the input [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

[Ed Fox]

Re: starter pads

Quote:]green urethane.[/QUOTE] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]

HY-LINE/Eastren is out of bussiness!! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img]

Ed