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    Hi All ,
    You will have to cut me some slack as I'm "NEW" to the game so I may not correctly name the right parts here :p

    On my shift tonight , I saw a machine just starting to do a pile-up , So up I went to have a look , The distributor feeder arm would not travel out to feed Pins 1-3 , So it was piling up on the 4-6 pin area , Never seen it before , The Head Mech was at the back end lanes with a table wiring problem , So I was on my own [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]

    First guess was the telescoping tubes needed lubing , Tried that but no go , Had to resort to manual pin loading as we were flat out with league bowling

    Had enough of that after 5 mins & was worried that I'd get another TC Bell , So had a good look & saw the long spring that fits behind the large nylon distributor Cam wheel had broken , It goes up towards the front end of the arm ( linear spring )

    Was able to bend a hook into what was left of the spring & "Jerry Rig " it to run OK .

    Spoke to the Head Mech about it & he said we have had Lots of them break in the last few weeks [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

    They are genuine OEM AMF linear springs , Any Idea's or a Non-Genuine job that may be better ?

    Thanks in Advance .

    Mark

    [ April 08, 2001: Message edited by: Mark Anderson ]

  • #2
    Re: 82/70 Distributor Arm linear spring

    The jiggy spring should work ok. The proper term is linear spring.

    King

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    • #3
      Re: 82/70 Distributor Arm linear spring

      Hi King,
      Thank you for the correct name , linear spring . [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

      Sort of , kind of , describes what it does , as well as every other spring in a machine [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif[/img]

      Is anyone else having a large number of these break in a Very short period of time ??

      Cheers , Mark

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      • #4
        Re: 82/70 Distributor Arm linear spring

        I cant speak for those but...........I have been having problems with other springs breaking!! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img]

        Charlie [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
        Please buy MADE IN USA!

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        • #5
          Re: 82/70 Distributor Arm linear spring

          i got about 8 dizzy's that run without any linear sping. easier on the 2-4 and 6-10

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          • #6
            Re: 82/70 Distributor Arm linear spring

            I can't say I have that problem at work myself. I work in a 64 lane house and we get our linear springs from AMF. We lose one once in a while but not an exceptional amount. Actually I'd say it's been at least a few months since I remember one going (at least while I was working).

            Rep [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
            All I want in life is to turn wrenches and climb around pinsetters/pinspotters again :/

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            • #7
              Re: 82/70 Distributor Arm linear spring

              Hi Coors,
              What is the "TRICK" to getting the dissy to run out to 1,2,3 without the Linear Spring ?

              It's is probably a silly question , But as I said in my post I'm new to this [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]

              Thanks for the Feedback

              Cheers, Mark

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              • #8
                Re: 82/70 Distributor Arm linear spring

                Have seen some guys stretcth their linears out to the end of the aluminum castings.Bit much in my book.
                Have had some success with a second spring mounted right along side 1st linear;orig. mount(actually,they intertwine [Ewwww!])
                That should get 'ya good telescoping action but 'ya might hafta crank up clutch spring a notch or two.
                Watch for the occasionally bent carrage tube.

                B.T.W. how goes the newbie factor?Hope things are gettin' a bit more familiar to/for 'ya! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
                fatty

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                • #9
                  Re: 82/70 Distributor Arm linear spring

                  Well, Marvin (NOOLIO) is a god, so no disrespect, but at my main dump most of the dist linear springs are pulled up to the very front portion of the casting. Provides a little more tension and allows more leeway for tubes and rollers that are going to hell to live a little longer.
                  At my #2 dump, (NOOLIO's #1 dump) there are several machines with double linear springs, they work awesome despite ~black~ tube rollers. Have been too sickened by the sight of them to clean and lube them, besides, I'm chasing some front roller popping off so I dont have time anyway.
                  At my (sadly) #3 dump, somebody tried wire ties to increase tension in the linear spring. They tied about 5-10 coils together on a few to make the dist go out to 1,2,3. As a result, those linear springs are deformed. All stretched out between wire ties, all scrunched in the coils that the wire ties were on. In other words, the spring is ruined.

                  Coors, I was shocked when I saw that machine of Dutch's running without a linear spring. "oh, that belt is new and needs to be worn in," he said. Wow! How DO you make them run without it? I always thought this spring was one of the weakest points in the machine, and one of it's most necessary parts!

                  Have NEVER seen a linear spring break! How! Why?!?!!? What the ?

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                  • #10
                    Re: 82/70 Distributor Arm linear spring

                    Attaching the spring to the shuttle gives the carriage a boost up to the #1 bin. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] :p [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]

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                    • #11
                      Re: 82/70 Distributor Arm linear spring

                      They did that on a few where I work also, put a wire tie on the spring for extra tension. I've found that just throwing a 2nd on works best. As said earlier the wire tie deforms the spring and also causes premature breakage of the spring (most linear srings I replace were tied) Just my $0.02 [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

                      Rep [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
                      All I want in life is to turn wrenches and climb around pinsetters/pinspotters again :/

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                      • #12
                        Re: 82/70 Distributor Arm linear spring

                        Quote:]Originally posted by Bender:
                        Attaching the spring to the shuttle gives the carriage a boost up to the #1 bin.[/QUOTE]
                        har de har har!
                        But seriously, is there such a thing as too much tension on the linear spring? Seems like the more the merrier.

                        I still have yet to see one BREAK. How does this happen? It's just a happy little spring minding it's own business. What gives? Literally!

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                        • #13
                          Re: 82/70 Distributor Arm linear spring

                          For the most part when they do break (as I said not very often at least where I work) usually one of the "hooks" at the end snaps off, though I have seen them snap right in half when the ones with wire ties on them broke.

                          Rep [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
                          All I want in life is to turn wrenches and climb around pinsetters/pinspotters again :/

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                          • #14
                            Re: 82/70 Distributor Arm linear spring

                            linar?
                            2 don;t make linarnull

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                            • #15
                              Re: 82/70 Distributor Arm linear spring

                              You will find that Vantage Linear springs will break in the neck area and are weaker than AMF. You usually need 2 Vantages to 1 AMF spring.So don't go there!

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