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    IHAVE ONE OF THE BEST IDEAS EVER THOUGHT OUT FOR THE KICKER BALL RETURN.

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    dust,good for you,but don't you think it might be nice to give us a clue as to what your talking about [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] KRUD
    if things aren't going right just use a bigger hammer! DIRT

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    • #3
      Re: KICKER BALL RETURNS

      Duster;
      Well my onion farts smell worse than yours so NAH!
      However,we run kickers at one of our centers,so please, mo' detail...!

      p.s.;
      Actually guacamole/bud.(shut up Marv) o.k.
      [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]
      fatty

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      • #4
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        I'll share a secret:

        Add 2 boxes of un-flavored Jello into 5 gallons of lane oil for a consistant shot. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

        Wayz-out

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        • #5
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          Pepe,

          How about urine instead of jello?

          king

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          • #6
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            the kicker ball return is a very reliable piece of machinery that works very well if you know how to set one up. first of all get rid of all those springs and get you or shall I say make you some turn buckles to take their place. when you center the lift and do all the normal stuff you put on these turnbuckles and adjust them to just barely put just enough tention on the kicker belt just enough to turn the kicker wheele. When the ball enters the door it will create the tention it needs to go in and up the lift. somthing else to keep in mind is to check the highth of the lift and make sure that the lift is not up to high or down to low.

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            • #7
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              [QUOTE]Originally posted by 82/70 king:
              [QB]Pepe,

              How about urine instead of jello?

              Ed,
              What was it,pee spit and beer??

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              • #8
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                Dustin,

                Those are some exellent tips.

                Thanks [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

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                • #9
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                  I think kickers are a nightmare either they have too many springs or not enough, for every return is like a woman and tempermental. I agree with the turnbuckle type adjustments, and making sure all aspects are properly aligned. But i still perfer PBL's.Have tried all types of kicker rollers and it also depends on the amount of conditioner is put out on lanes. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

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                  • #10
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                    I must give credit where cridit is due. Rodger B from Colorado gave me the idea about the turn buckles. It has been a life saver and the best thing is is I can no put down as much oil as I want and the lift still return balls. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

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                    • #11
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                      D-man:
                      I keep houndin' Lord Bagley to get his 'Magic box'(computer)hooked up "on line" so's weez can pick this guys grey matter.
                      You've met him;would He be an asset here on B-tech or what?
                      fatty

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                      • #12
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                        Quote:]Originally posted by NOOLIO:
                        D-man:
                        I keep houndin' Lord Bagley to get his 'Magic box'(computer)hooked up "on line" so's weez can pick this guys grey matter.
                        You've met him;would He be an asset here on B-tech or what?
                        [/QUOTE]

                        Every center he's been in has 1/4x20 bolts instead of the set screw(807-249-160) [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img] . And he leaves the retaining ring off(919-006-800) [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img] . So to stop the 1/4x20 from catching on the indexing cam he shims out the cam with a washer or 2 . And to stop the lateral cam follower bearing from rubbing against the spaced out indexing cam, he shims out the lateral drive arm . Then he adds another thrust washer to space out the pinion . To top it all off he butchers the main casting(070-006-136) for his double linear spring set-up because his carriage doesn't work right .

                        Bagley is a good mechanic, in so far as he can keep a center running, but needs additional training like most of us. Nobody knows everything.

                        Signed,
                        The bubble burster :p

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                        • #13
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                          Man I would have to say that the Bag man s the most intune mechanic in Colorado. Noolio has worked with him he should know. Bags center didn't get the reputation for a good center from the bowling stand piont that place runs rock solid and Marv yes it would be a huge asset to bowltech to have this man on here.

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                          • #14
                            Re: KICKER BALL RETURNS

                            Silly me [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img]
                            fatty

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                            • #15
                              Re: KICKER BALL RETURNS

                              Yeah, WHERE IS BAGLEY?!?!

                              Now that I have learned so much from BT and my buddies here in CO, I've been able to notice some of the many little improvisations made by him at the centers I've worked at. He made them, many years ago, and they are still on the machines, and the machines run well because of it!

                              Not sure about the turnbuckles, seems a little risky. Then again I am a notorious chickens$#@.
                              Doesn't it cause too much stress on the already-stressed pot metal links that hold the top sheaves for the kicker belts?
                              I replace enough of those broken pieces of crap already!

                              Post some pictures please. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong kicker shaft...

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