Pins fall on FR

[John_Galt]

allright - here's one fer ya.

Every so often, this machine will dump the 2,4,5,7,or 8.
I swear to GOD everything on the table is adjusted properly - table height, level, cup opeinings, shafts, "lightning rod"(spotting link), deck level and cleanliness, etc.
Pins are all, well, decent (hey they're Brunswick pins, they aint perfect! ) The bases are all good, anyway.

This is really beginning to annoy me!
Any suggestions?
Chaddy

[Kat]

Re: Pins fall on FR

Have you checked the adjustments for proper toe-in? Also check the tension on the yoke springs.

Another place would be to check the key inside the table drive housing...if it gets sloppy the table will "chatter" when it decends.

[Coors]

Re: Pins fall on FR

just lower the table a half turn (at the table drive assy). then with pins about 1/4" from the pindeck, turn the spotting rod til the pins are on spot. then lengthen the 3/8" set srew so its 1/16" or so from the table frame.

[Lampie]

Re: Pins fall on FR

Hidiho Chad,

Check all the above and then look at the tension of your spot balance springs(mounted on the table torque tube). Some time ago one of them broke on one side of a machine and after I did put a new one in I had a simular problem. The new spring did have MUCH more tension than the old one with the result that the table didn't go down to the lowest point occasionaly. Did some cleaning under the machines, did find an old one, changed the spring, problem solved.

See ya,

Martin

[knuckles]

Re: Pins fall on FR

Magic, Is it possible that one of the old style plastic tips on the end of the respot cells is getting caught on the linkage of another respot cell when fingers open up all the way so the table can spot a full rack causing one of the cups to catch a partially closed respot cell? (gotta catch my breath) I have seen it happen, crash, boom and you think something broke. If it is not that kind of dump, then I think coors is on the right track. Congradulations on your degree Mr. Magic. knuckles [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

[craigchandler]

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are you sure that a cup is not rubbing on the x frame, or on the 070-002-612 linkage, the person that wrote re the loose arms and cam on the key way is a possible problem solver as well

[Terry Reichard]

Re: Pins fall on FR

Don't know if this is relevant or not, but sometimes when a ball gets hung up on the front roller and the pinspotter sets a full rack, the ball will hold up the table and the pins will fall all over the place.

Terry

[John_Galt]

Re: Pins fall on FR

Thanx guys!!!!!!!!!!
I'll try these ideas tomorrow, and let you know which ones were right in the next few days.
'Pershiate it!
Lil' Chaddy Poo

[showdon]

Re: Pins fall on FR

also check to make sure ur cup yoke assemblie is not broken.
this could cause that problem.hope this helps.

[Lampie]

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I think he found it 6 years ago...

[Alastair]

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[maister]

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Have you checked to see that the yoke is centred to the table when it spots as it is all on the one side I would be checking to ensure the yoke is centred and not pulling harder on one side and the cups will be forced either further back or further forward.
Just drop the table to spotting at the deck with the pins just touching and measure each side ot the head pin to the yoke, if this is not the same loosen the collar and simply knock the yoke in the direction it needs to go then AND only THEN reckeck yoke, toe in and spotting.
maister

[showdon]

Re: Pins fall on FR

i see yall still laughing about me answering some other post.
i did not know that it would pop up in other post sorry guys.
i have been working on machines since 1981.since amf has started
charging to solve problems.i just join this site in case i need
help in the future.maybe i can help out somebody or one of u guys
can help me out.sorry about answering old 6 year problems.

[Gym]

Re: Pins fall on FR

i see yall still laughing about me answering some other post.
i did not know that it would pop up in other post sorry guys.
i have been working on machines since 1981.since amf has started
charging to solve problems.i just join this site in case i need
help in the future.maybe i can help out somebody or one of u guys
can help me out.sorry about answering old 6 year problems.

Don't feel like the Lone Ranger on this one. Several of us have answered "necropostings", as Jerry put it, and had a good laugh. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/boogie.gif[/img]

[Pietenpol]

Re: Pins fall on FR

I have this image of an old mechanic sitting at his computer....cobwebs dangling between his fingers and the keyboard. Eyes twitching a tad...head turning.....eyes opening wide as he
leaps up and screams FINALLY!!!! I can fix it!