curious Lampie style question

[knuckles]

Just wondering why most distributor clutches run okay with the 3/4 turn tension and you find one with very very little tension. I got a clutch that every time I clean it and put it back together, it acts like it has to much tension on the clutch. I end up putting the nut on hand tight and just putting enough tension on the clutch spring to prevent the clutch from unwinding. It works fine as is, but every 3 or 4 months when I clean the clutch I start wondering all over again. Any takers???? Larry

[8270king]

Re: curious Lampie style question

I have a couple dist. as you describe. I put some clutch pinions with the roller bearings on them and I can use more tension. One of the dist. that acts this way has a replacement shaft with one of the "V" clutch kits. Maybe replacement shafts are more likely to have this problem.

Jerry

[Jimmy Jam]

Re: curious Lampie style question

If you put a wrench on the nut you're over tightening it. IMO. And what I teach.
Before you put the worm on, press with you're fingers on the washer and see how much play you have in the pinion/plate along the shaft( in the direction of left to right if you were facing the masking units). The less the better, but you still need some so the pinion will rotate freely around the shaft. File down the bronze bushing if the pinion won't rotate, and file down the metal sleave if you have to much slop. Make sure the pinion is seated fully on the plate before you go filing anything.

My take is you're bearing sleave is to short and you're compressing the worw/washer against the pinion instead of the sleave.

The sleave acts as a spacer, and a bearing.

[Jimmy Jam]

Re: curious Lampie style question

No, Lampie would ask something like:

Curios happening at the market as the hostess was tabulating my items today. I wondered if my distributer wasn't much like the conveyor belt on which my food was traveling apon but cleaner. Can it be that you need only scrape vegetables across the belt to clean them?

I think they, and I, suffered too much already.

[Jimmy Jam]

Re: curious Lampie style question

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[Lampie]

Re: curious Lampie style question

Wrong,wrong, wrong...
It shoul be like this;
- Hey guys I was just wondering last night why I don't use the dist. spring(backwards) to put the nut on? This saves my nice hands and a tool...
or
-If I would put all my 24 dist. belts together, will this be long enough to have a sraight line to our kitchen? This saves my nice legs and a not wanted meating with bowlers asking freaking questions, while in the same time having time to think about why my machines are not working. Economic or not?
or


Lampie

[TheGMan143]

Re: curious Lampie style question

Quote:]Originally posted by knuckles:
Just wondering why most distributor clutches run okay with the 3/4 turn tension and you find one with very very little tension. I got a clutch that every time I clean it and put it back together, it acts like it has to much tension on the clutch. I end up putting the nut on hand tight and just putting enough tension on the clutch spring to prevent the clutch from unwinding. It works fine as is, but every 3 or 4 months when I clean the clutch I start wondering all over again. Any takers???? Larry [/QUOTE]

I've found that unless you take a wrench to the nut, the machine vibration will cause it to tighten and 'back-off' the spring, causing less tension... Newer friction discs also need less tension to run without slipping than the older ones do.

[TheGMan143]

Re: curious Lampie style question

Quote:]Originally posted by knuckles:
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I was going to send this one yesterday, but my ISP suddenly decided that I didn't need DSL service for a few hours, and they went into a maintenance shutdown... but while we're on the subject of cleaning clutches... try this one:

Go to your local hardware store and get a 1/4" hitch pin (it looks kind of like a hairpin and costs about 70 cents)... knock the roll pin out of the distributor shaft on one of your odd-numbered machines, and replace it with the hitch pin... It will be the last time you will have to bend a shaft while beating out a sticky roll pin. I've changed all of the odd machines to this kind of setup, and it saves me tons of time when cluch-cleaning time comes around...not to mention shafts and skinned knuckles. Easy...put the dist. at the #1 bin, pull pin, drop the shaft, pull clutch, clean, replace clutch and shaft, push in pin, done... no more using a punch and hammer to beat that ornery pin out. The only thing I found is that a lot of the aftermarket plastic U-joints are too fat to get the pin over them, so all my odd machines have steel joints, and the evens get the plastic ones... but the plus is that the pin is slightly thicker and actually pinches the u-joint collar...since I put them in, I have never had a drive shaft slip off the pin and fall into the pit on the odd machines. If anyone wants a picture of the setup, toss me an email and I'll send it to you.

[TheGMan143]

Re: curious Lampie style question

Quote:]Originally posted by 82/70 king:
I have a couple dist. as you describe. I put some clutch pinions with the roller bearings on them and I can use more tension.[/QUOTE]

Where did you get pinions with roller beraings in them? I've never seen one available, and I'd like to try them out... might be just what I need to solve another ignant problem I have on my machines....

[8270king]

Re: curious Lampie style question

Gman,

I believe they came in the Stahl's clutch kit. I scrapped the clutches but kept the pinions. I like the orig. clutches the best.

Jerry

[knuckles]

Re: curious Lampie style question

Well guys, I'm going to rip the shaft out of the distributor and compare it to a new one. I am going to do it over Thanksgiving holiday weekend. We are usually slow for a couple of days after turkey day.

I have put in a new pinion and sleeve, washer, back plate, worm, and disk. I have checked the stop blade and everything else looks fine. So if it is working why am I messing with it??????????


I'll let you know what happens.


Lampie, I hope the bar is near the kitchen or the frig in the kitchen is full of beer.


Larry [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]