"Super" clutches

[pat]

Ok here is another one.

We have super clutches and cannot change them due to the expense that the guy before me went into to get them; he also threw all the old clutch parts away. Now I have some of the “spring washers” that are put together to form the spring action, that are wearing out. I cannot find a replacement part number for the washers and my distributor has no idea what the number is. No way am I going to buy a whole assembly to get a few washers. Does anyone know how to get some of these “spring washers”?

Signed
Going nuts in rural America

PS Thanks for the help on the bouncing table.

[Lampie]

Re: "Super" clutches

Quote:]Originally posted by pat:


PS Thanks for the help on the bouncing table.[/QUOTE]

I don't know anything about superclutches, but what was the solution for your bouncing table?

Martin

[the old dirt man]

Re: "Super" clutches

PAT
I have tried a few super clutches from AMF and VANTAGE and I don't know why there called supper clutch [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] with brand new ones it seemed like they would tighten themself up or loosen up and they had to be adjusted every day sometimes two and three times a day. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]
I did have one I put on and only had to adjust it one time??
I saved the old clutches and I only ran the super clutch for around two weeks and took them off and filed them in # 13 trash can,but that was about 5 years ago and I don't know if there's been any changes on them since.I think there junk. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] CRUD

[Coors]

Re: "Super" clutches

ive never had a problem with supers. the original vantage had a problem with sleeve seperating from the pinion, i have a vintage '95 AMF super clutch untouched. . .and on a lane.

there is a number for the vantage spring washers. its in the pre super-clutch II catalog. "96ish. i think it was V-610-704-004-S got a bag of 7 i think.

i recommend the AMF spring tho but i dont know of a number

[8270king]

Re: "Super" clutches

All super clutches are garbage....no slip worm means constant friction = heat = wear on something. Replace one per month and be glad you did.

Jerry

[kryley]

Re: "Super" clutches

Quote:]Originally posted by CRUDWEISER=BUD:
with brand new ones it seemed like they would tighten themself up or loosen up and they had to be adjusted every day sometimes two and three times a day[/QUOTE]

At our centre we have come up with a temporary solution to this that seems to work 90% of the time. In between the nyloc nut and the first set of spring washers, we have put in an extra thrust washer (# 070-007-376). This tends to stop a few things - it "grabs" onto the spring washer to stop them from binding on the shaft (that doesnt work to well) and also stops the nyloc nut from tightening and loosening itself. Like I said, it seems to work for us.

While we're on the topic, we have thought about putting a very thin sleeve underneath the spring washers (in between the washers and the shaft) to stop the washers from eating into the shaft. When they do that they get stuck in the grooves they make in the shaft, and they are very hard to adjust. Have any of you guys tried this, and if so, does it work and is it worth it??

Have fun!!

[the old dirt man]

Re: "Super" clutches

Quote:]Originally posted by 82/70 king:
All super clutches are garbage....no slip worm means constant friction = heat = wear on something. Replace one per month and be glad you did.

Jerry[/QUOTE]
I'LL drink too that
[img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] I use cork for a friction disc and oil it once
a month clutch parts last 5 times longer and haven't have to replace a pinion gear for a long time. CRUD

[ December 13, 2001: Message edited by: CRUDWEISER=BUD ]

[Guest]

Re: "Super" clutches

I installed a vantage super clutch a few years ago on a dizzy i had just rebuilt from the ground up. It ran perfectly for maybe 6 months and then started to become a problem. Had to tighten it one day, loosen it the next, and eventually take it off and rebuild it.(i had extra spring washers from another kit i bought)
Even then it was still never as good as the first few months.

I agree with 8270King, start replacing one a month and get rid of them.

Did you try asking Stahls for a part #?

Eric

[pat]

Re: "Super" clutches

Thanks guys I really appreciate all the help! The super clutches have been running for years we seem to only have a few problems on one or two lanes. But then we are a relatively low lineage house. This is one part that does not seem to be very rugged and a lot of factors have an impact on how well they operate.

For those who have been asking about our table problem. It was a bearing on one of the legs on the back of they yolk that was binding up. Thanks for all the help there also.

I just wanted to say that Vantage has been a real good company for me to work with. Unlike AMF who rarely answers the phone. Their Tech support has always been first rate and available. I sure like how many choices of kicker wheels they have. You know that their parts are going to be what they say, a special on parts does not mean a new load of used spotting cups or something. My hats off to them for making my life easier.

[8270king]

Re: "Super" clutches

I agree...I am glad Vantage is in business. If it were not for the independents...carpet belts would be $500.

I have heard stories of carpets being very high in the 60's before any competition.

Jerry

[ December 13, 2001: Message edited by: 82/70 king ]