broken ball idling bracket and stuff

[Casey]

hey guys i have a broken ball idling bracket, part # 610 704 014, came off the bounce-plate causing the carpet to stop. i pulled the bracket out, my question is how important is that bracket? i've run it all day and no balls idling so i'm assuming its ok. i didn't feel like breaking my knuckles today...

also on oily ball calls...has anyone tried the rocket rails? I think we are going to get a couple for our problem machines, should i try just the lower track? that seems to be our biggest problem.


kc

[8270 pinspotter]

Re: broken ball idling bracket and stuff

Casey,
If your not having any trouble with idling balls, then just leave the bracket off. I have a few with missing brackets and have no trouble. A little trick I have used in the past to solve ball idles is to take a piece of old distributor belt about 8-10 inches long and nail it to the tail plank under the gutter on the ball door side. Then just let the belt ride on top of the carpet. It's a quick fix until you can install the bracket if needed. As far as rocket rails, I've never tried them. I just use the standard AMF rails with no problems.

ps. forgot to mention this. If you do the belt thing, be sure to put some Duct Tape over the nails to prevent ball and pin damage.

[ December 30, 2001: Message edited by: 8270 pinspotter ]

[8270king]

Re: broken ball idling bracket and stuff

The bracket is not needed.

Jerry

[the old dirt man]

Re: broken ball idling bracket and stuff

Quote:]Originally posted by 82/70 king:
The bracket is not needed.

Jerry[/QUOTE]

that bracket may be needed depending on what type of carpet is being used [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]
and JERRY what are you measuring with a yardstick I hope it's not what I think it is [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img] if it is your in the wrong line of work. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] CRUD

[8270king]

Re: broken ball idling bracket and stuff

Cruddie....no it is short....kind of like a tuna can....

Jerry

[Dutch]

Re: broken ball idling bracket and stuff

[img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img] "LIKE A TUNA CAN"??? [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img] Please, no more... I don't want to know ANY more.

KC,

Prioritize your work. If the missing bracket isn't causing a problem, it isn't a priority. Replace it when you get a chance.

As for Rocket Rails, check out the “Lift Rod Covers” thread.

Dutch

[Coors]

Re: broken ball idling bracket and stuff

Quote:]Originally posted by dutch:
If the missing bracket isn't causing a problem, it isn't a priority. Replace it when you get a chance.

As for Rocket Rails, check out the “Lift Rod Covers” thread.

Dutch[/QB][/QUOTE]ditto, i put brackets on every bounce plate that budget allows. Vantage Premiums never require it (<<--plug)

[Dutch]

Re: broken ball idling bracket and stuff

What, [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] is everyone working for Vantage now???? [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

[John_Galt]

Re: broken ball idling bracket and stuff

No, Vantage just makes kick-ass stuff and takes care of it's customers. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif[/img]

Except for the Ball Idling Bracket Kit, which in my opinion is a waste of money.
If there is enough gap there that balls &amp; pins are getting stuck, I'd say a piece of 2X4 and a nail on the tailplank work just fine.

But then, if you work for a big company like Hilton, 26 bucks for a ball idling bracket isn't a big deal [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

Where I used to work, the ass-end of several machines had moved back quite a bit. What they did (darn, I was busy that day) was wrap winch &amp; chain around the machine &amp; all the way up to the seating pillars, and pulled the machines back where they belong, then relevelled. It worked.

[Dutch]

Re: broken ball idling bracket and stuff

Quote:]Originally posted by Magic Triangle:
No, Vantage just makes kick-ass stuff and takes care of it's customers. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]

I'll admit that there's a few good things but the bad things are really bad. ie: TBL &amp; SWP contacts.
That's as far as I'll go with that here. If you want to take it further, e-mail me.

Quote:]Originally posted by Magic Triangle:
I'd say a piece of 2X4 and a nail on the tailplank work just fine.[/QUOTE]

OK, Where's Deadwood?

Quote:]Originally posted by Magic Triangle:
But then, if you work for a big company like Hilton,[/QUOTE]

Not only do I no longer work for Hilton, you've seen where I work &amp; you know what my budget is like.

Quote:]Originally posted by Magic Triangle:
Where I used to work, the ass-end of several machines had moved back quite a bit.[/QUOTE]

What does that have to do with anything? Interesting solution, though. Isn't that what the tank bolts are supposed to prevent?

Dutch

[ January 03, 2002: Message edited by: dutch ]

[Coors]

Re: broken ball idling bracket and stuff

a cheaper solution (free) is cut an 8 by 4 inch piece of carpet/equivilent. bolt it to the back of the flat gutter using the inside rear flat gutterscrew. it also prevents pins from idling. works great for me

[vinson]

Re: broken ball idling bracket and stuff

Vantage makes poor parts ,stay away.Untill they tell me why.

[TheGMan143]

Re: broken ball idling bracket and stuff

Quote:]Originally posted by vinson:
Vantage makes poor parts ,stay away.Untill they tell me why.[/QUOTE]

Wow... I think that's the first time I've ever heard someone who didn't like Vantage parts. I'm sorry to hear that... I've been nothing but pleased with thier standard parts, and even more so with thier 'updated' parts... they've fixed a bunch of deficiencies that the originals had. I order probably 60% or more of my parts from them, and never had a problem.

[TheGMan143]

Re: broken ball idling bracket and stuff

Quote:]Originally posted by Coors:
a cheaper solution (free) is cut an 8 by 4 inch piece of carpet/equivilent. bolt it to the back of the flat gutter using the inside rear flat gutterscrew. it also prevents pins from idling. works great for me[/QUOTE]

We use something similar... we had a couple older cushion rubber pads with cracks. We cut out a roughly 6"x2" block around 2 of the rivet holes, then lagged it into the tailplank behind the flats. The recessed rivet holes work good for a lag screw and a washer.

[Bill LeMieux]

Re: broken ball idling bracket and stuff

Casey? Since you've removed the brkt from the bounce plate how many balls have idled on the front roller of that machine? Always put them back on. Someone in the past, and you should pass it on, knew that that machine needs one. The cost, what five bucks, and a few special bolts is well worth doing it right away. Keep 'em original and add their extras when tested and approved and watch out for ghosts and your all set.