FRIDAY CLASS

[the old dirt man]

OK CLASS this happened to me about 25 years ago.82/70 ss machine,league is bowling they call deck lite is having a spaz attact so I get there and light is flickering when sweep or table is running not at zero, masking unit plug right??
wrong so they keep bowling a few minutes later as I'M watching it sweep&table relays start chattering then the machine blacks out [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] so I change the chassis still no power,check wall circuit it's on?? get meter and check incoming power to machine it's ok [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]
check circuit breaker on back control panel it checks good and I jump it still nothing.
jump masking unit switch still nothing??
pull c1 plug and look at it looks good?? pull c2a looks good ?? put another chassis on still the same and I push on the open contacts for the be relay and grab the wires on the sweep&table contacts nothing no quick charge LOL so now I know there is no power to chassis (league is waiting no place to move them)check amc plug and found nothing?? (league got tired of waiting and left) WHAT'S THE PROBLEM, AND IT WAS FRIDAY THE 13TH PART ONE EGOR WAS THERE. and no it's not the magnetic clutch.and no more fighting in class [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] CRUDO

[Mr. 800-R]

Re: FRIDAY CLASS

Teach,

I believe the problem is your Russel Stoll plug.

I have slowly been replacing mine due to corrosion and arcing.

Guru

[the old dirt man]

Re: FRIDAY CLASS

SORRY 82/70 GRUO HERE WE DON'T HAVE RUSSEL STOLL
PLUGS [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] WE HAVE a wall 20amp switch [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]
don't ask me why they think the switch is safer.
power is going into the switch and going out and the chassis is still dead. :p

[Packman]

Re: FRIDAY CLASS

The wire bridgeing the 2 neutral wire terminal strips was bad in the wire way.........

[Ed Fox]

Re: FRIDAY CLASS

Is today pizza day? [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

Charlie [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

[Kat]

Re: FRIDAY CLASS

CRUD:

Let me get this straight...so you ARE getting 120VAC to the machine (chassis). What about the 24VAC for the manager control circuit. Is the chassis getting that to? I noticed you mentioned the mask circuit several times. It too is part of the manager control circuit. If no 24VAC at the chassis, then one would need to trace where the 24VAC control is broken.

***Wondering when graduation day is :p ***

[knuckles]

Re: FRIDAY CLASS

Your pet mouse got inside the front wireway :p and started nawing on the power supply wires going into the front wireway.

I know I'm right. Don't burst my bubble teach. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

knuckles

[Mr. 800-R]

Re: FRIDAY CLASS

Direct wire is better then Russel Stoll. They arc after years of constant use. I shouls have hard wired mine instead of using twist lock.

It is senior skip day here. I will be at the party bridge smokin' a lefty!

Guru

[deadwood_dup1]

Re: FRIDAY CLASS

Sounds like one of your machnines was a victim of a rolling blackout.

I agree with Kat...with a break in the 24VAC circuit there would be no power then, today, or tomarrow [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

deadwood

[Packman]

Re: FRIDAY CLASS

Directly connecting your 110 volt's is illegal in many states. Many states require the disconnect plug. For safety reasons....................

[Jimmy Jam]

Re: FRIDAY CLASS

Originally posted by Packman:
The wire bridgeing the 2 neutral wire terminal strips was bad in the wire way.........

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[Dutch]

Re: FRIDAY CLASS

My 1st guess would be to check the incoming power wires &amp; terminals in the wireway, under the chassis. I don't remember the terminal designations but one is black, the other is white &amp; they plug into the term. strip near the A&amp;MC plug. Is there power to this point?

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[the old dirt man]

Re: FRIDAY CLASS

well classssss
packman got it on his first reply and so did JJ.
they get a 18 pack of beer and a big bag of chips for dinner. :p the rest of you get bread and water for dinner and have to stay after class.
next class problem will be in 1 hour [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
don't be late. CRUDO

[deadwood_dup1]

Re: FRIDAY CLASS

Packman: The Russel Stoll Plug is Illegal in the state of California... Just for 411.

deadwood

[mechanic8230]

Re: FRIDAY CLASS

Russel Stohl is illegal in California? Crap El Crudo and I are going to jail for working in a center that had them then. Damn, all that hard work down the tubes.