What is this?

[deadwood_dup1]

[deadwood_dup1]

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What is this? [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

also somethin for the vets that I found.



deadwood

[8270king]

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In the early days most centers had leased equipment. It required less capital to construct a center without buying pinspotters.

The box is a 82/8 foul unit. One of the best ever made.

Jerry

[Ed Fox]

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From my understanding back in the day all you could do was lease the equipment.....they wouldn't let you buy it....and on top of that......you weren't aloud to repair the equipment...only certified AMF employed personnel were aloud to work on the machines. Crud and Mech 30 are old enough to remember!

King....”greatest foul lights ever made”?....never mind....I almost forgot.....you think a Sure-stuck is high tech also. The only good thing about those foul lights was they were easy to repair....a couple of smacks to the side of the box and you were good for atleast a week! :p

Charlie [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

[8270 pinspotter]

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I still have those boxes hanging on the curtain wall, but all the "guts" are gone. I now have Radary Plus, so all that stuff is just taking up space on the wall. Also, I think that plate is from an 82-30 machine. It has the old AMF logo, where as the 82-70 has the newer one.

[jc]

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Agree on the plate. Mine have them too (82-70s). The box of junk is from 82-08 Radar Ray foul lighting system....just like ours. They haven't worked in years and are being replaced with ZOTs.....any comments on ZOT?

[BowlEquip]

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Actually, leased equipment was regularly inspected (preventive maintenance "PM Check") by AMF personnel, who would write up a report indicating work needing to be done by the house mechanic. Warranty or other no-charge replacements (motors, chassis) needed to be approved by AMF. Upgrades and changeovers (ball doors to kickers; distributor heads; 82/70 A to B; etc) were performed by AMF technicians.
At the end of the lease, the customer would be "given" an appearance upgrade if they renewed, such as masks or sweeps (once the new style sweep bars were available). Some PR6, PR7, and 4400 customers were even offered 5850 or 6525 chassis or kicker conversions.

[Androooo]

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From what I have been told, that's how our 30's got here (we have the plates on our machines) except ours say property of AMF, Sydney, Australia. Our started off as 5850's I beleive, then got converted to 6525. Our elevators stayed the same (vertical) until the PBL's came out, and ours got converted to them.

[amfpinboy]

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ED, The machines were leased and you paid by the lineage. In 1960, bowling was fifty cents a game and AMF got ten cents of that. We could swap a chassis for $5.00! They would come in about once a month and do a chair " P. I. ". They were very careful about the frame counters.

[TheGMan143]

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echhh... sorry I couldn't post right away... I automatically feel a sudden urge to do a "Technicolor Yawn" when I see stuff like that 82-08 unit...

Our machines still have the 'property of' plates on them as well... Some of them still have remnants of the 'shuttle seals' left too. (For anyone that's never seen this, AMF used to pour a plastic or resin into a little pan that went under one of the shuttle-stringer bolts, as a kind of "disassembly protection seal" against removing the machine framecounters.

[vinson]

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2 AMF techs went around house to house about 1980 and added the resin and the stamp because people were disassembling the shuttles to cheat on the linage they had to pay.

IF IT HAS TITS, TIRES OR SAYS AMF CHANCES ARE YOUR GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH IT.

[Kat]

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FWIW, all of my shuttles still have this resin on the clamp plates. It is a teal color with "AMF" stamped on it. Yes, I still run my shuttle counters. Great for calculating FPS numbers.

[Guest]

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Heck, our 82-70 Cs have the same Lease plates, or something close.... Pretty much the same foul light boxes too... I'll bring in a digi. camera one day and show you all... LOL

[Ed Fox]

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Originally posted by amfpinboy:
ED, The machines were leased and you paid by the lineage. In 1960, bowling was fifty cents a game and AMF got ten cents of that. We could swap a chassis for $5.00! They would come in about once a month and do a chair " P. I. ". They were very careful about the frame counters.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thats one hell of a cut! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]

Charlie [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

[Pindecked]

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Boy,you guys are making me feel my age.28 years at the same center
Pop was a dime,shoe rental a dime,bowling was 3/$1 Sunday mornings-with a packed house @ 8:30 am. &amp; Smoking pot was the new fad.
We oiled with a spray can,stripped once a month,&amp; got high as hell on Laquer in the summertime !
I remember our first "Streaker" ! A guy came in the front door ,ran across the lobby ,&amp; down the runway to exit the back door. Ah, the "good ol' days". [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

I'm still running those 82-8 foul units.

The old days of "Commercial service"...AMF stopped in every Monday,wrote up a report of things that needed done this week.

We took weekly lineage reports -sent $ .11 X lineage # in to AMF.

I'm on the 3rd set of machines here now(purchased a set of 82-70 C's in 1992), ..&amp; I still use the frame counters on the machines to catch a crooked counter person on weekends [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]