what caused this!

[vinson]

Here's a test for you, we put in some machines years ago. Upon firing them up lane 1 was cycling lane 2 when you threw a ball ,also at the same time,each pair of lanes had this problem.Throw a ball on a lane and its partner would cycle at the same time. 16 lane house, Creative tech. boards in the chassis. 2 hints,it had nothing to do with the front desk or reflectors.
This is a very real problem that happened.
Good Luck

[8270king]

Re: what caused this!

AMC box was wired backward.

Jerry

[Ed Fox]

Re: what caused this!

Was it the 2x4's that you have jammed inbetween the machines?

Just kidding bud :p

Charlie [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

[deadwood_dup1]

Re: what caused this!

Do you have triggering? If so your ball detect might be shaking on impact when it comes incontact with a ball hitting the gutter. We had this problem when we mounted our ball sensors behind the downsweeps. Try and taking those 2x4's out of your kickbacks and bracing your ball triggers if you have them. Wierdest thing. Throw a gutter 10 side lane 1 and see lane 2 cycle. Common thing i guess.

deadwood

[Jimmy Jam]

Re: what caused this!

My guess is the machines were wired for RPO boxes when you got them and the installers forgot to make changes to the wiring? Hell, I don't know.

[8270king]

Re: what caused this!

Ed,

LMFAO

I was going to post that but I promised myself I would turn over a new leaf!

Jerry

[knuckles]

Re: what caused this!

I have seen a bad MI box do that, but not with new scoring.

I believe there is a common wire in the amc box that links the two machines in some way. I don't know what terminals are involved but maybe they got the wrong terminals hooked up when they did the install.

Maybe you got 8 cross talking ball trigger switches. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

Maybe you got 16 perfectly matched electronic gremlins. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

I just don't know.

knuckles [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

[Ed Fox]

Re: what caused this!

Originally posted by 82/70 king:
Ed,

LMFAO

I was going to post that but I promised myself I would turn over a new leaf!

Jerry

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">"A new leaf"....whats his name? :p

Charlie [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/usflag.jpg[/img]

[8270king]

Re: what caused this!

Ed,

Ed

Jerry

[the old dirt man]

Re: what caused this!

Originally posted by 82/70 king:
Ed,

LMFAO

I was going to post that but I promised myself I would turn over a new leaf!

Jerry

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">you turned over a what [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] was it brown
and did you like it. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]
I had no idea. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] CUJO

[vinson]

Re: what caused this!

We didn't have the triggering installed yet, just had the basic start switches.

Ps:I never said a word about 2 by 4 s. 1/2 inch at the very most.
If it has tits, tires, or says Amf, chances are your going to have trouble with it

[deadwood_dup1]

Re: what caused this!

NOTHER ROUND BARTENDER! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

deadwood

[Mark Anderson]

Re: what caused this!

Originally posted by vinson:
Upon firing them up lane 1 was cycling lane 2 when you threw a ball ,also at the same time,each pair of lanes had this problem.Throw a ball on a lane and its partner would cycle at the same time.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">More Info requested [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

Would this occur if the Even Lane had the ball sent down , or just if the Odd Lane was bowled ?

I'm assuming from all available info that the are plain straight up 82-70s [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

It would have to be a wiring issue in &amp; or around the Chassis &amp; associated gear for my 10 cents worth , as it was an Installation error / mistake

[Mark Anderson]

Re: what caused this!

After reading the original post , something has got me thinking 10th Frame / Reset Pins button .

Not sure why though ,

Just something from memory that did occur at a 70's house I previously worked at ( &amp; returning to , starting tommorrow ) , Exact error / fault is hazy now but the 10th Frame button was in the problem there somehow .

[vinson]

Re: what caused this!

Mark's getting warmer, the machines are straight up, some pairs it was the even lane some lanes it was the odd lane, had a lot of sweeps hit for a while.