BE SS Switches

[8270king]

Who makes the best BE solid state motor switch?

I tried on of those round adjustable ones years ago and it didnt work.

Jerry

[Kat]

Re: BE SS Switches

I've used Murrey's for my Westinghouses and have had good success with them. Only had one crap out. I, too, am not a big fan of the round orange guys, but I've got one of them in use too. I like to keep my ESSS in the BE control box as it is less subject to vibration and failure.

[rrev]

Re: BE SS Switches

In my totally biased [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] view, ours are the best. Order from AMF 610 309 046 - same part for all BE motors. Works on capacitor start ball return motors too.

Hey Kat, I'll be passing through town on my way to Bowl Expo in June, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to drop in to say hi. So, if I don't make it ... "HI".

Ray

[8270 pinspotter]

Re: BE SS Switches

I've been using Murrey's with no problems. I also put them on the wireway to keep them away from heat and vibration.

[Kat]

Re: BE SS Switches

Hey Ray:

It would be nice to see you again. But, if not, Hi back.

How's everything with you?

[Dutch]

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I like the Murrey switches & I also Velcro them to the wireway. The main reason I like them is because they are repairable. If you're on a limited budget, you can easily repair them for about a buck. All of the others I've seen have to be tossed if they go bad.

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[Terry Reichard]

Re: BE SS Switches

I have National B/E motors and I prefer the cybernetics SS start switch. Seems to work for me.
I have had problems in the past trying to get the AMF orange type to work properly. However I do like the AMF orange for the combination motors. I have had some that have been going strong since 1996.
When you guys say you install yours in the B/E control box, do you just run wires from the start switch to the box and then the motor? But what happens when you change a motor, doesn't that slow down the process?

Terry

[8270 pinspotter]

Re: BE SS Switches

I have seen guys make little quick disconnect plugs for the wires. Personnaly I just made the wires longer and stuck it on the wireway. I didn't see the need to put in the control box.

[BowlEquip]

Re: BE SS Switches

OK, here we go. The best so far is the Sinpac Solid State Start Switch, made by Stearns (82-30 guys remember that brand name?) and sold by Stahl's. It's very small. Installed all 40 in 1991 and have replaced, since then, about 6!
Since wiring order determines the direction of rotation, I designed two wiring harnesses for the Sinpac: one for LH machines and one for RH. I "popped" a hole in the side of the wire duct to accommodate an AMP flanged receptacle similar to the C23/MP mask and scoring plugs on the chassis, but with 9 positions instead of 37. The above mentioned wiring harnesses ran in the duct from this receptacle into the box, where the Sinpac is mounted with velcro to the upper right hand side. The harness requires six wires, and since the LH machine has a LH harness, (and RH with the RH) LH/RH motor stators no longer exist...all fit anywhere. Direction of rotation is controlled within the machine.
Since then I have redesigned the system and upgraded to include the capacitor and the klixon in the control box so they don't get hit by a stray pin that goes past the O-pan. This also allowed me to reduce the amount of wires to four. The stator has its own cord, hard wired thru the end bell to little terminal boards with 90 degree 1/4" tabs for quick connects to connect each motor plug wire to the proper winding wire. Unplugging the motor requires only a simple twist to unlock the plug. This cord also allows for testing at the bench with the proper Sinpac adaptor.
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[Mike Stalker]

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I am in a center where machines were bought from a couple centers.

There are several types of SSSSw's. I have always put molex plugs on my switches and if a failure occurs with a switch, a ten second repair is all it takes to get up and running.

Sounds like too much hassle to run BESS to the control boxes.