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    today we had a kid get his arm stuck between a ball coming up and the bar which is atop the powerlift at the front. (at least thats how it was described to me)

    now naturally the kid shouldnt have had his arm in there in the first place, but has anyone thought of a kill switch for such an event?? i was thinkin of stickin a "kegel" style kill switch where the kids arm got stuck, to kill it, so desk people dont have to hear a kid screamin and figure out whats goin on before comin down to flip it off. has anyone else done a similar project??

    i know there are "doors" for powerlifts, are there any other lawsuit preventing gadgets on the market?? how about stickers any "complimentary?"

  • #2
    Re: vantage powerlifts

    Coors: The AMF options have a 3 position microswitch inside the powerlift. I am surprised that Vantage doesnt have one. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img] Chaddo?!?! It would be kinda hard to install somethin like that. But in any case, that little bugger deserves it! Dont stick your hand in things you shouldnt stick em in.

    Well thats just like your opinion man...


    • #3
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      don't know what to tell you? even if there was a switch to turn it off do you think it would do very much good? would the desk person or the porter be running right down there! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]
      I have been in a few places that somebody got there hand caught in a brunswick power lift and every time it was when there was a handicapped group there [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] not just handicapped bowlers [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] but from a group home that came in once a week! the way I feel if they aren't handicapped and they are that dumb to put there hand in there oh well! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
      I'LL bet if they get there hand caught in there once they won't do it again!
      just put stickers on where the ball comes out stating keep your fu**ing hands out of hear! moving parts that don't like to stop! CUJO
      if things aren't going right just use a bigger hammer! DIRT


      • #4
        Re: vantage powerlifts

        I agree with the above two posts. As long as you post stickers telling people to keep hands out of the power lift, then your butt is covered.

        If people still insist on reaching in there, then they deserve what they get.
        If it's kids, the parents really need to watch their young a little better.
        "Where are we going, and why are we in a hand basket?"



        • #5
          Re: vantage powerlifts

          I agree, stickers is the way to go. They cover your butt in case someone sticks there hand in there. I have stickers on my foul light covers in case somebody wonders out there and falls and tries to take me to court. As long as there is some kind of warning, you are safe.
          Give me a hammer and some duct tape and I can fix it!


          • #6
            Re: vantage powerlifts

            one other thought,get some plastic hands made up that look real and have them chewed up with a finger missing and some blood on them!! LOL
            mount one on every hood with a sticker saying this could be your hand!! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img] CUJO
            if things aren't going right just use a bigger hammer! DIRT


            • #7
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              Warnings help some, but don't post stickers and then be all warm and fuzzy knowing you can't be held responsible... People will still sue (more than ever), and whoever can shovel money into the lawyer-stoked legal furnace will usually be the one who wins. It sucks, but it's the truth...

              We tried to protect ourselves, too... the Qubica system has a neat little 'bowl at your own risk' screen that pops up as soon as the lane is opened for non-league bowling... the bowler has to 'accept' it by pressing the red key on the dashboard before it will even let them type their names in or start bowling. There is no way to bypass it from the dashboard, and the machines won't start until it's 'accepted'. We have warnings on the panels, warnings on the ball lifts, and warnings on the screens. We still had a couple people bitchen because they (or their kid, who, while they were busy drinking beer or blabbing) got hurt... either from walking 8 feet over the foul line and falling, getting appendages stuck in ball lifts, arcade games, access doors, lockers, etc... You just can't win.

              Let's face it...there will always be LOTS of stupid people (most times with kids that follow right in the parent's footsteps)... Post signs, warnings, whatever you want, even over every inch of the joint, and they will still never cease to amaze you in their stupidity.

              Enough venting... have a nice day... :p
              <span style="font-style: italic">Educatio est omnium efficacissima forma rebellionis</span>


              • #8
                Re: vantage powerlifts

                If you think ball returns need motor transmitted force applied to the ball within arms reach of the customer your nuts.

                I have the solutions to your need. Lets talk.


                • #9
                  Re: vantage powerlifts

                  They have obviously never seen the movie "KingPin"!!

                  I still cringe a bit when I see that part. It hurts enough having a sur-stuck belt take your pinky into the pulley while cleaning


                  • #10
                    Re: vantage powerlifts

                    Look at the solution this way , would a curtain covering of some type hanging down over opening eliminate the notion to stick a hand in there, out of site out of mind? It could easly be attached to the inside of the opening, maybe work it into a ball wipe type of unit. Then if someone wanted to see what was in there they would get a punch in the nose with a ball lifting the skirt.


                    • #11
                      Re: vantage powerlifts

                      deadwood, Vantage also has the 3 position switch inside. . .if thats what your talkin about. if your talkin about safety switches im all ears.

                      im talkin about installin the opposite of a "lawn mower" handle switch atop there. a bar resting next to a "twist to release" switch so that if some kid/*******adult sticks his hand in, when his hand gets squished, the button is pushed in, and the powerlift is dead, until the desk person or us, come down get the arm unstuck (if needed), and twist the knob 1/4 turn to release it.

                      i looked through "grainger" and think i found what i'm lookin for. will let ya know, and am open to solutions.

                      thank you Vantage for calling this mornin'


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