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    Gentlemen (and I use that term loosely),

    got a quick question for you, I have a machine that has the (4-5-6) pins offspot about 1.5 inches to far forward. Individual cup adjustments aren't working. Since this is the whole row of pins, is it a spring adjustment for that shaft?

    We have our lane certification coming up soon...just have to solve that little dilemma. If if it a spring adjustment...do I need more tension or less?

    Thanks
    casey

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    Re: Pins offspot.....

    Just one row? Did you re-adjust your table recently? My suggestion would be re-adjust your table and double check your adj bwtween table height and toe in.

    I suppose the 4-5-6 yoke spring could be weak but ive never seen that. Im sure most of the vets here could tell ya more.

    Good Luck
    Deadwood
    Well thats just like your opinion man...

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    • #3
      Re: Pins offspot.....

      Also with Deadwoods suggestion make sure your "lighting bolt" rod bushing are in good shape.
      If one bushing goes bad it can cause a row to be offspot or very shakey when spotting.

      Peanut
      Peanut

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      • #4
        Re: Pins offspot.....

        Lexan cups have more adjustment also if the aluminum will not make it back to the spot.

        Jerry

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        • #5
          Re: Pins offspot.....

          Ahh..Masternut hit my other suggestion on the head here. take the "Cup tie link" or lightning rod or shazam rod off and check for ware. I had a few that when I rebuilt them threw the pins offspot. Also I agree with king that the lexan cups such as the vantage ones have more of an adj then the aluminium ones. Just dont run them through a table jam.

          Deadwood
          Well thats just like your opinion man...

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          • #6
            Re: Pins offspot.....

            Ok, stupid question time here. What exactly are lexan cups that I hear so much about on here? All we've ever used are the aluminum ones at my house. Any pics someone could post of one maybe? Thanks [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

            Rep [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
            All I want in life is to turn wrenches and climb around pinsetters/pinspotters again :/

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            • #7
              Re: Pins offspot.....

              I might be able to get you a pic of some of those... Basically they are just a spotting cup solid-molded out of high-impact plastic (lexan - same stuff shatter-resistant windows are made from). There's been a lot of plastic cups out on the market in the past, but the lexan ones are really the only ones that went the distance. Since they are solid, and somewhat thinner than aluminum for the same strength, you can move them farther without having them bind up on the table casting, fingers, or links.
              <span style="font-style: italic">Educatio est omnium efficacissima forma rebellionis</span>

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              • #8
                Re: Pins offspot.....

                GMan, thanks for the reply. Only non aluminum cups I've ever seen are 2 black plastic cups that are on our machines from long ago (the 10 cup on lane 21 and lane 34.) If ya could find that pic and post it that'd be cool. If they're as good as they sound I could prolly try some out at work. Thanks again for the post! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

                Rep [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
                All I want in life is to turn wrenches and climb around pinsetters/pinspotters again :/

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                • #9
                  Re: Pins offspot.....

                  Casey:

                  I agree with Masternut &amp; Deadwood. Probably Tie Link Flange Bushing 900 205 053 is worn for that row.

                  It might also be that a spotting spring 070 002 688/9 is out of adjustment but I'd think that pins would be staying in the cups or falling over if that were the case.

                  Maybe also the tie link (lightning rod) 070 002 612 is bent but, same thing, you'd probably have pins puking on spotting.

                  As for Lexan - great cup - no horizontal adjustment. I have driven over one with my car and it was just fine.
                  Just have to remember to NOT overtighten the bolts, because they are weak when that kind of stress is put on them. You don't have to hunker down on those nuts - they are stover nuts after all.

                  The Vantage bolts V070 002 787 are longer than other brands' and allow for more adjustment if all of the above is good.

                  And I'm spent.
                  Chaddy

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                  • #10
                    Re: Pins offspot.....

                    I have driven over one with my car and it was just fine.
                    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Your AMC has enough power to climb over a spotting cup? :p

                    Charlie [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
                    Please buy MADE IN USA!

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                    • #11
                      Re: Pins offspot.....

                      It must have been downwind and downhill for that Rambler.

                      Jerry

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                      • #12
                        Re: Pins offspot.....

                        Ed &amp; Jerry -
                        Y'all can go GFY!
                        Actually, I drove over it one less-than-sober night with my Toyota.

                        The AMC would have certainly overwhelmed it and shattered it to pieces.
                        Not from the weight but from the tremendous burnout...

                        It is currently in the 4 position on lane 23.

                        Chaddy.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Pins offspot.....

                          ok will check all those out in the am, after I get all my other "crap" done. Ever notice how small centers have you doing more work on other equipment than the actually machines (the whole reason for being?)....anyways, also i noticed that when you stop the table at the 180 position (spotting position) i can pull back on the botton of the cups (5-4-6) with ease and some play. the other cups I can grab the bottom of them and yank with no play! does that add any to the mystery? i'm pretty sure the link is fine...bushings are good....spot rod is good...pins don't fall over except for the 4 pin on occassion which is in the problem row....if I ever get to work on the machines again I'll check out everything you guys suggested!

                          ahhhh, life in the small town can it get much better?

                          casey

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                          • #14
                            Re: Pins offspot.....

                            Originally posted by Ed Fox:
                            </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have driven over one with my car and it was just fine.
                            <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Your AMC has enough power to climb over a spotting cup? :p </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey, I just found the perfect Pacer car for Chaddo:

                            AMF Pacer Car

                            [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] (GD&amp;R)

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                            • #15
                              Re: Pins offspot.....

                              Hey MOK....LMAO!!!!!!! U Da Man!

                              Charlie [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
                              Please buy MADE IN USA!

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