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I recently was involved in a new product test with AMF. They have developed a ball return retrofit kit that WILL eliminate YO-YOs. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]
I know it sounds impossible but it is true! We can not get a ball to Yo-Yo. We even took a 16 pound house ball and poured oil on it (Polychem CEO 65) and it goes up the lift without a problem. For those of you that went to Bowl Expo, if you looked at the machine on display at the AMF booth, the kit was installed on that machine.
We have been testing the product, called "The Gripper" for over a month. I have a 'Humpie' installed here as well and I foresee these products in direct competition for superiority. Competition is a great thing! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/usflag.jpg[/img]
I recently was involved in a new product test with AMF. They have developed a ball return retrofit kit that WILL eliminate YO-YOs. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]
I know it sounds impossible but it is true! We can not get a ball to Yo-Yo. We even took a 16 pound house ball and poured oil on it (Polychem CEO 65) and it goes up the lift without a problem. For those of you that went to Bowl Expo, if you looked at the machine on display at the AMF booth, the kit was installed on that machine.
We have been testing the product, called "The Gripper" for over a month. I have a 'Humpie' installed here as well and I foresee these products in direct competition for superiority. Competition is a great thing! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/usflag.jpg[/img]
Originally posted by Mas8230: How about a "gripper" kicker?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Im trying...I cought that italian disease...."fundsalo"....as soon as I recover from it I'll be back in R&D with it! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]
Charlie [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
I recently was involved in a new product test with AMF. They have developed a ball return retrofit kit that WILL eliminate YO-YOs. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]
I know it sounds impossible but it is true! We can not get a ball to Yo-Yo. We even took a 16 pound house ball and poured oil on it (Polychem CEO 65) and it goes up the lift without a problem. For those of you that went to Bowl Expo, if you looked at the machine on display at the AMF booth, the kit was installed on that machine.
We have been testing the product, called "The Gripper" for over a month. I have a 'Humpie' installed here as well and I foresee these products in direct competition for superiority. Competition is a great thing! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/usflag.jpg[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We don't have a problem with yo yo's so much as getting the balls into the exits past the kicker wheels. The humpbacks eliminates the kickers. We have installed the humpies on 4 sets of problematic machines So far we have had good luck with them. Does "The Gripper" system eliminate kicker wheels?, if not I don't think they can compete with the humpback.
Sorry, it won't elimnate the kickers. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img]
It will eliminate balls yo-yo-ing in the lift however. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
We used to have a real problem with this because of our high lineage. We have to put down enough oil for 3 shifts and invariably an open bowler or a league bowler with a ball older than me would throw it right down the middle of the lane. Eventhough we have ball wipers, these people have never heard of the concept of wiping there own balls (no pun intended [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] ). Hence we had yo-yos.
We haven't had a ball stuck on the 2 pair that we have the kits installed on, except for one case of a LBS being out of adjustment.
If kickers worked....they would not have engineered PBL.....there will be a day in our lifetime that no one will use kickers with the progression of bowling balls.
We have to use so much oil that kickers are not useable at this time.
I forget how many times I would adjust and tinker with a pair of lanes to get balls to come back just to have them have problems with open bowlers later that night or the next day.
With Humpback ......I put them in and now I forget them....they return balls all the time with proper installation........you cannot use nylock nuts and you need to put in the lift arm correctly with grade 8 bolts and use flat washers instead of the plastic spacers.
Kickers suck....bottom line.....anyone want to argue that point could just go back to cast iron paddles and put the 5 ss boards back in their chassis.
And switches in their motors.
And start switches on their cushions.
And wires on their tables.
And gripper protection switches.
And shock absorbers on their sweep links.
And on and on . . .
Can somebody give an explaniton how pins 2, 3, 6 are supposed to be connected. I had a shortcircuit there for the drive motor connection because of water leakage.
I have a distributor that is pulling the belt hard to the left in the nine pin position (and possibly 6 pin), but seems fine in the other spots. As you can see the residue and...
I have several Pin Elevators that I believe to be out of round on my XLi's and was curious if anyone has ever run across this before and is so, what you did about it.
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