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  • Sure-Pik problem

    This has been a problem for a while. This sure-pik only runs on auxiliary, but not in normal mode. This is what I have done so far....

    1. Replaced the safety switch (twice)
    2. Replaced the auxiliary switch (3 times)
    3. Replaced the entire insides of the power box (5 times)..basically a totally new box 5 times over.
    4. Re-wired /replaced wires leading from terminals 2 and 3 in power box all the way to the A&MC box in the back
    5. Replaced chassis on both machines (shot in dark)
    6. Replaced relay 5 times (see above)
    7. Did continuity tests on ALL wires in power box each time I replaced it
    8. did continuity tests on in-line fuses and holders.

    I think that about covers everything. Here's what is different though. I did a voltage test on terminals 2 and 3 in the power box. I get 24V on terminal 2 but not on terminal 3. I know there is supposed to be 24V on both. I know thats a problem but I dunno where to check after that. Any sure-pik guru's out there with any clue I'd gladly appreciate any input you'd have. Thank you!!!

  • #2
    Re: Sure-Pik problem

    I got out wiring digram out.
    don.i know with one it is three different
    ones.I'm guessing it has one relay in the
    box.what goes back to a&mc box goes to a relay
    in the chassis.relay in sirpk relay coil in
    that circit.I think it maybe aux.sw or safety
    sw.

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    • #3
      Re: Sure-Pik problem

      try jumping terminals 2-3 in the sure stuck
      control box and leave the switch on normal.
      if it comes on the problem is the wires coming
      from am&c box or a wire got disconnected or broke
      in the am&c box [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

      if it doesn't come on jumping 2-3, the problem is
      in the sure junk control box. :p
      if things aren't going right just use a bigger hammer! DIRT

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      • #4
        Re: Sure-Pik problem

        The 1 relay box is for 70's.

        The 3 relay box is for 30's.

        The 3 relay boxes will work on 70's with wiring mods on the C-2 cable.

        Check to see if all your boxes are the same.

        Jerry

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        • #5
          Re: Sure-Pik problem

          They're all 1 relay boxes. Thanks for the suggestions [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] . I'll check and let ya know what I find.
          Thanks!
          Bob

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          • #6
            Re: Sure-Pik problem

            Ok, I jumped terminals 2 and 3 in the power box and the power went on. But, when I remove the corresponding wires in the a&mc box in the back and jump them together, I also get power. So I KNOW the wires leading from the A&MC box to the sure-pik are good. Are there any other wires in the A&MC box to check or is there anything else I should check other than what I already listed previously?

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            • #7
              Re: Sure-Pik problem

              my book says connect to tba3 wh & tbb3 bk.
              it should be common to both rh&lh mach.

              I hope this help.

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              • #8
                Re: Sure-Pik problem

                GIMINIX,
                the next thing to check is the wires in the am&c box the tan wires are reversed going to terminal #3 [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] in other words the odd lane goes to the even,and even goes to odd.
                the yellow wires goes to the same side it comes from [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img] even to even,and odd to odd!
                if that doesn't fix it [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] check the c2a plugs
                row 3 terminal 4 should be yellow.
                row 3 terminal 3 should be tan.
                have fun :p
                if things aren't going right just use a bigger hammer! DIRT

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                • #9
                  Re: Sure-Pik problem

                  What about the wires going from the A&MC box to the wire channel, or just a loose/bad A&MC plug.
                  Didn't read that one...

                  Martino
                  So it goes.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Sure-Pik problem

                    Ok I'll check them out later tonight when the leagues finish up and get back to you [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

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                    • #11
                      Re: Sure-Pik problem

                      Well, I got it fixed FINALLY [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] Thanks for all your help. It was Cujo that got me where I needed to look. It turned out that the tan wires in the A&MC box were reversed. What I do not understand, though, is how they got that way, because that was NOT the original problem. I ain't complaining. It's fixed and that's all I care about. Thanks again!!!
                      Bob

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                      • #12
                        Re: Sure-Pik problem

                        GEMINIX,
                        glad you got the problem cured! :p
                        now you know what to do when you leave that place
                        so somebody else can have some fun LOL.
                        if things aren't going right just use a bigger hammer! DIRT

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                        • #13
                          Re: Sure-Pik problem

                          Cujo just stopps by to keep us all up and running.....

                          I NOMINATE CUJO TECH OF THE YEAR OF 2001

                          Jerry

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                          • #14
                            Re: Sure-Pik problem

                            JERRY,
                            thank's for the thought [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] but all I want is
                            free beer! LOL
                            if things aren't going right just use a bigger hammer! DIRT

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                            • #15
                              Re: Sure-Pik problem

                              Cujo, if I weren't 3,000 miles away I'd gladly buy ya a beer I'll buy you one the next time you're in the Philly area. This thing has been a problem for 14 months and I was so damn happy when I fixed it at 2:30 AM I think I woke up all the old folks in the retirement home next door from my screaming..lol.
                              Thanks again!

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