Orientor pan fix

[8270king]

13 was jamming when I took the runner out ounder the belt.

I tried to tweak the turn pins on the orientor pan.

Broke one off [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img]

Drilled a 3/8 hole next to the pin and use a 3/8 x 3 bolt.....secured it with 2 nylock nuts and put plastic hose over the threads.

It worked like a charm [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

Jerry

[poplarpetey]

Re: Orientor pan fix

Did you try heating the pin with a torch? I just heat it a bit to help it bend easier.

Pete

[Louie_IV]

Re: Orientor pan fix

When I need the pin on the orientor pan to be a little closer to the pinwheel, I just put a wooden pin ejector roller on it. It's almost always the one that hits the pins that are coming up bottom first to make them turn faster. I have only done this on 30's though. Don't know how well it would work on 70's.

Louie

[Mike Stalker]

Re: Orientor pan fix

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origonally posted by 82-70 King.

It worked like a charm [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
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Must be ugly though. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] That sounds like something a new hire would do.

How long have you been doing this kind of work??????? [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

[pat]

Re: Orientor pan fix

Since I always follow a question with a question. Here we go again. I have one lane that constantly throws pins off the orientor pan. Since I have to work the front and the back I usually do not see this happen. Everything looks straight. What causes this King? [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] Any ideas all of you?
Thanks
Pat

[8270king]

Re: Orientor pan fix

Get rid of the pan under the belt.......3 1/4 bolts......undo the belt lacing......bolt back together......the pins snuggle into the distributor like Ed does into his neighbors tent.

Jerry

[deadwood_dup1]

Re: Orientor pan fix

Pat: THis is common when chassers like to take vise grips to the turn pan and bend the edges up and down. Most of the time it the pins that fall off are the but first pins. Its a great deal of weight transfer when that butt first pin comes rolling onto the turn pan. I have 2 fixes for this problem.

At first I took a broken shuttle tube and put it in a vise, and heated it up bout 3 inches from the top, then bent it at a 45 degree angle. Drilled two holes in the turn pan to fit 2 7/16 bolts in there. Attached with nylon lock nuts and wala. The bellies hit my little mod and never fell off hitting the suicide bar again.

This fix took time so I decided to put my head together with a fellow mech and found that drilling a hole to accomidate a 7/16 bolt and added a Vantage pin butt guide shock mount on the end of the turn pan wing did the same job. Never had the problem again. Hope this helps. If you need a pic let me know ill post them both.

deadwood

[NOOLIO]

Re: Orientor pan fix

Wood-
Would definately like to see
some pictures please!

[8270king]

Re: Orientor pan fix

I tried the bin shock fastened to the end of the turn pan.....it caused jams fro pins going up the pinwheel head 1st...the pin bottom hit the bin shock.

Jerry

[Mike Stalker]

Re: Orientor pan fix

Pat: If trying all those mods does not appeal to you, then just adjust the pin rail and O-pan like it should be.

Keep in mind each pin rail adj is not a mirror of other machines.

1. Make sure your gap is set(by the book) between the O-pan and the pin wheel.

2. Set your pin rail to feed pins slowly and evenly head first and bottom first.

Make sure the orientation speed of the head first and bottom first pins are equal. If not, two pins get too close together, which puts pressure on your distributor to keep up and hold back the second pin.

This may take a little time, but not too long.

Pin rail machine side will usually be bottomed out on the slot.

Pin rail, walkway side is usually where you will spend the most time adjusting.

If you have 4" sheaves then the slow speed orienting does not work well and will cause pins to feed head first.
Mike

Forgot to mention, keep the O-pan and pin rail clean. I only wipe mine down once a week, a dirty pin wheel can also cause problems.

[Kat]

Re: Orientor pan fix

Originally posted by 82/70 king:
I tried the bin shock fastened to the end of the turn pan.....it caused jams fro pins going up the pinwheel head 1st...the pin bottom hit the bin shock.

Jerry

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Jerry, when doing the bin bumper deal, it is best to put it a close to the edge of the turn pan as possible. I've got 32 set up this way with no problems on the head first guys. I'll have deadwood post a pic of my setup. It does work.