kicker woes!!

[Pin_Head]

HI there guys,
I thought id post a question here again seeing as in this case it has me buggered.
What the problem is, is that one perticular pair of lanes we have is giving me a great deal of grief, as in i have managed to get lane 5 to the point where balls will enter the ball exit and sit under and go up the elevator belt fine, but lane 6 is a different story, the balls travel over towards the exit , go in and stop half way on the kicker, only recently i put in a new starter pad, replaced the front filler pad changed the kickers, changed the elevator and centered it, i thought maybe the elev. was too low but i lifted it completely out of the way by hand to check and the ball still wont enter fully just sits half way on the kicker roller. I put a brand new kicker drive belt on thinking as the old one was cracked it may be slipping ... still no good.
Any light you guys could shed on shed on the matter would be GREATLY appreciated... [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

[8270king]

Re: kicker woes!!

Take a bin bumper.....super glue it to the pad that sits against the even lane lift rod rail.....this allows tha ball to enter the exit easier....you might have to lower the lift assy.

Other fix....if it just lane......take a bin bumper (smaller) and insert it into the filler pad......then super slue a large fill pad bumper to the kicker housing.....this spaces the kicker away from the exit.....you will probably need a little extra spring tension.

Always use a chain over the rear ball lift shaft ran through the upper paddle bracket to adjust kicker tension.....secure it with a nail.

Make sure you have your kicker belt on correctly.....the will run backward!

Jerry

[TheGMan143]

Re: kicker woes!!

Good points, King...

I was thinking something along the lines of possibly too much tension on the kicker, pinching the ball & overcoming the kicker's pull.

The other though I had was that in the original post, I didn't see a mention about the saddle 'ramp' rubber. We had a couple oddballs that caused a problem similar to this... they were a bit too thick, and didn't seat into the groove on the saddle fully. The result was that the rubber was too high and it was pinching the ball before it got to the starter pad.

I forget who we bought them from, but the the problem rubber pads were black urethane and pretty thick.

[deadwood_dup1]

Re: kicker woes!!

Zot lower filler plate pads are the best! If you can get your hands on some of those sawtooth pads they work great! Will hold balls in and there very soft.

deadwood

[Don49er]

Re: kicker woes!!

1st of all...Is the starter pad assy. centered? Is the starter pad assy bent in ANY way? I cut a notch in the lower corner of all my starter pads so the pad will slide all the way down til it meets the main filler.Then I drill a hole in side of assy and install a sheet metal screw to prevent the starter pad from sliding back up.This will start the ball up quicker and wont sit there and hesitate.As far kickers go--I use nothing but the THICK type of plugs(000-025-638)that goes into the rear filler plate.Deadwood--your right on with those Zot filler plate strips---super soft but wont tear.Pin_Head try one of these and get away from those black ones wheather its rubber or urethane..Nothing compares to Zots blue ones...solved many problems for me over the years.Heard Zot was coming out with their own version of a kicker wheel...has anyone tried these yet??...

[jim k]

Re: kicker woes!!

yes i have tried the new zot saw tooth kicker roller and i'm here to tell you they work just like everybodys else's does if you know what i mean [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] but i do like there filler strips [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

jim k.

[Pin_Head]

Re: kicker woes!!

Does anyone have a part number for those blue Zot filler plate rubbers ?? Seeing as here in Aus its not as easy to get Zot parts as we have to buy them from the AMF whorehouse and man they dont even carry AMF parts half the time so yeah trying to get other parts from them is like trying to get ummmmmmm G.W. Bush and S.Hussein to kiss and make up hahahahah

[pat]

Re: kicker woes!!

Hey I have fought this one for a long time. The solution for our house was that the bracket that holds the kicker assy was slightly bent. I bent it back to level and the problem got better!

I too have found that the best fis is to glue a bin bumper to the fikker pad.

I fought this one forever and once I bent the brackt back I could use the correct bumper with no glue or anything.

Pat Best of luck to you. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

[Don49er]

Re: kicker woes!!

It's called "Enhanced Ball Return Assembly Pad Kit"...Zot#420402....24.95ea