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    Ok, anybody know 82-70 back-end motors real well? We have 4 different motor types, and I dont know whats what! Also, anybody ever see B-E motors wired straight into the control box at the back [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

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    SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE GOT TIRED OF FIXING THE PLUG AND SOCKETS ON THE MOTORS DUE TO PIN JAMS AGAINST THE MOTORS AND WIRED THEM DIRECTLY. THE TYPES OF BE MOTORS NOW OUT THERE ARE THE GE, ONE STYLE FOR THE A MACHINE (IF THERE ARE ANY A's STILL OUT THERE) AND THEN THE ONE THAT'S OUT THERE NOW. DIFFERENCE IN THE TWO IS THE PLACEMENT OF THE DIST. OUTPUT SHAFT. NEXT COMES WESTINGHOUSE. THERE TWO TYPES THE 314 AND 325. THE 314 HAS THE BIGGER ROTOR AND STATOR, WHILE THE 325 AND A.O. SMITH ARE SMALLER. YOU DO NOT WANT TO MIX THESE CAUSE YOU CAN BURN UP THE STATOR IF YOU PUT A 325 STATOR ON A 314 BOX. NEXT YOU HAVE THE NATIONAL OR JAP MOTORS. THIS IS FOLLOWED BY THE VANTAGE WESTINGHOUSE GEARBOX THAT HAS BEEN CONVERTED TO ACCEPT THE NATIONAL STYLE OF ROTOR AND STATOR ASY. THE LAST TYPE OF BE MOTOR IS THE NEW FRANKLIN ONES USED ON THE 82-90's AND ANY 82-70 UPGRADES. THEY HAVE SOLID STATE START SWITCHES IN THEM VERSIS THE MECHANICAL ONES IN ALL THE OTHERS.
    I PERSONALLY LIKE THE OLD GE's BUT PARTS ARE GETTING HARD TO FIND ALTHOUGH VANTAGE STILL MAKES A NUMBER OF THEM.

    THE DOCTOR
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      My machines showed up hard wired into the box but I took care of that. You can find half high outlet boxes. I took one and drilled 2 holes through the back of my control box and mounted my out let there,wired from the control box. I bought the outdoor outlet covers with the spring loaded lids-hinges on them and put them over the outlets. I then bought grey washing machine plugs(heavyduty) that had a couple feet of wire already on them and hardwired these into my motors,the springhinges keep them from coming loose.Basically they just plug in to a normal outlet mounted on the back of the control box just above the wireway.

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        I have rigged a safety switch that I screwed on the end bell of our westinghouse BE's. It works very well & the push on-push-off switch is a heavy duty vacuum cleaner switch that is rated to carry the current load. I am looking at a way to strap it on as to not void a warranty on the mtr. We have had no problems at all. It is simply a hinge like a door hinge but not as heavy. I bend the top of the hinge {the open end} to the radius of the end bell and drill a 5/32 hole and use two HP 10-24 thread rolling screws. To back track, I first extend the bottom of the hinge so it hangs over the center cap of the mtr. I drill a 7/16's hole in the hinge for the switch. I then box in the switch with a rectangle fire retardant .100ths thick 2x4" plastic box. We rarly get pile-ups but when we do ,pins fall off the O-pan and hit the rectangle box and shuts the mtr. off. I use 14 ga. wire {hard wired} to the term. strip. The mtr. never overheats with this inovation and no more broken klixons, drive shafts bent, broken end bells etc. In operation for two years now. This is such a simple concept, why has no one else done this? BTW we run 6 inch pulleys and well maintained dist.'s. I would post a jpg if I knew how. Can anyone help?
        Yeah but, We've always done it that way.

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          i think ive had just about all types of b/e motors
          National, a/o smith, Westinghouse, GE, Crompton,
          and many other horrible conversions

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            oh almost forgot franklin as fitted to 8290's and 8800's

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