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  • franklin b/e motors do they al leak or just mine

    i have 28 lanes of 8800's all with franklin b/e motors. a good deal of them leak
    i have tried about 5 different types of seals
    i have even had one worm shaft turned down by an enginner and fitted with a speedy seal
    tried removing the breather plug but they still leak
    anyone have the same trouble

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    Re: franklin b/e motors do they al leak or just mine

    hey pulse

    i dont have any troubles here [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

    thats because i run NATIONAL motors

    just everything around them is a lil suss for now [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img]

    time fixes everything, i know this cause i have hit 100

    good luck in your search, for good porn and seals
    i don't need mods, i am a bloody genius

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    • #3
      Re: franklin b/e motors do they al leak or just mine

      Pulse:

      The motors need to be vented. If they are vented and they are leaking, the best advice I can give you is to logon to amf.com and go to the manuals section. In the 90XL section they have a version of the motor manual you can download. It covers many aspects of the motors, including seal replacement. Good Luck.

      Roger

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      • #4
        Re: franklin b/e motors do they al leak or just mine

        GMan, I need to quote your "signature", here if you don't mind...

        Gearbox leaking? Fear Not! If it's leaking, there's still oil in it... :p LOL!

        Seriously,

        I use the blue "Smurf Cum" gasket in a tube. I think it's called "Ultra", or something like that. None of my motors leak after I've rebuilt them. Ya just gotta make sure everything's CLEAN when it goes back together. Wire brush, carb cleaner, plenty of rags.

        If I see a motor with ANY oil around it, off it comes, one of my rebuilt ones goes in its place, and back to the shop with it! I do not tolerate leaking motor/GB's!

        [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

        Doug

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        • #5
          Re: franklin b/e motors do they al leak or just mine

          Hehe... works for AMF Harley's too...

          "Harleys don't leak... they just MARK THEIR TERRITORY..."
          <span style="font-style: italic">Educatio est omnium efficacissima forma rebellionis</span>

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          • #6
            Re: franklin b/e motors do they al leak or just mine

            Originally posted by TheGMan143:
            Gearbox leaking? Fear Not! If it's leaking, there's still oil in it...
            Worry when it STOPS leaking.
            <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">that just about sums it up

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            • #7
              Re: franklin b/e motors do they al leak or just mine

              Franklin motors do not leak. Because they are just that, motors. If anyone knows who makes the gearboxes please post. I have 50 lanes of em and some back end gearboxes leak. We have replaced the seals with one shipped for free from amf. Have found that the input shaft is the one that leaks most often. Am still waiting for more free ones from amf.

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              • #8
                Re: franklin b/e motors do they al leak or just mine

                Pulse and Mreesser, what type of gear oil are you using?

                I run SAE 140/600w that I get from a local jobber. This oil is a pure mineral oil , no sulpher. Gear oil with certain minerals will are not to be used in gearboxes containing bronze parts.

                I am like Stuck, I pull any gearboxes that are leaking and fix them. Jerry (King) tops them off or sends them out [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

                Mreesser, what kind of a name is that, initials for something?
                Pinspotters do not break down when they are not running!

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                • #9
                  Re: franklin b/e motors do they al leak or just mine

                  We use 80-90/10 sulfur-free gear oil (diesel truck heavy-duty gearbox oil) in our gearheads... we have very few problems with leaks or seals breaking down from it, and it's temprature-resistant, so it lasts w/o thinning, sludging, or breaking down.

                  Before we started using that stuff, we completely cleaned &amp; flushed the gearboxes with kerosene until they were spotless, then filled them with the new oil, ran them a month, drained them, and refilled them. Been fine ever since.

                  Most of the seals we get come from a local dealer... they're spring steel with reinforced buna/neoprene, and they wear like iron.

                  I think it's more about the seals then the oil... the previous 'mech used old, regular motor oil, drained from tractor crankcases... we still had very few problems with leaks or failed seals.

                  If I had to guess at Mreesr's handle, I'd say it's the shortened version of Mr. E. E. S., Senior... but that's just me. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
                  <span style="font-style: italic">Educatio est omnium efficacissima forma rebellionis</span>

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                  • #10
                    Re: franklin b/e motors do they al leak or just mine

                    Very close gman. Mreessr= Matt rees sr. I use the gear oil that amf provided with the instalation. Sounds like I should try the other stuff. Also I found out who makes the gearboxes. Hub city from South Dakota.

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                    • #11
                      Re: franklin b/e motors do they al leak or just mine

                      Tractors had bronse parts in the crankcases. That mech knew what he was doing. Must have been hard up for money to go with used gear oil though.
                      Pinspotters do not break down when they are not running!

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                      • #12
                        Re: franklin b/e motors do they al leak or just mine

                        I have had the Franklins on since October 01 and have not seen a drop of oil yet. I use the oil AMF provides. Synthetic and runs much cool than regular gear box oil. No noise out of these motors either, backend or combinations.

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                        • #13
                          Re: franklin b/e motors do they al leak or just mine

                          Originally posted by Mike Stalker:
                          Tractors had bronse parts in the crankcases. That mech knew what he was doing. Must have been hard up for money to go with used gear oil though.
                          <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I should have been more specific... LAWN tractor crankcases... he used to moonlight at a small-engine repair place that one of his relatives owned.

                          Dunno about the money situation, but for whatever reason, that 'black gunk' that smelled like old 1/2-burned gasoline was around the place by the gallon... and for whatever reason (knock on wood), I've never seen a gearbox fail in the 13 years I've been there... not much in the way of leaks, either. I think the last seal I had to replace was a backend distributor output shaft seal, about 3 years ago.
                          <span style="font-style: italic">Educatio est omnium efficacissima forma rebellionis</span>

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                            Re: franklin b/e motors do they al leak or just mine

                            I recently had my g/box start leaking after i changed the elevator drive seal. But the leaking seal is the motor input aswell. I didn't even touch that seal and now it is leaking. I would love to pull it back off but they are a real pain in the butt.
                            P.
                            Formally Sports Central

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                              Re: franklin b/e motors do they al leak or just mine

                              Originally posted by Mike Stalker:
                              Pulse and Mreesser, what type of gear oil are you using?

                              I run SAE 140/600w that I get from a local jobber. This oil is a pure mineral oil , no sulpher. Gear oil with certain minerals will are not to be used in gearboxes containing bronze parts.

                              I am like Stuck, I pull any gearboxes that are leaking and fix them. Jerry (King) tops them off or sends them out [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

                              Mreesser, what kind of a name is that, initials for something?
                              <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The king does not have time for such work....I am responsible for:
                              Payroll
                              Scheduling
                              Ordering
                              Inventory
                              League Coordination
                              Secretary 5 leagues in the summer
                              Oil the leanes every day
                              Applying roundup to the weeds outside
                              Paying the bills
                              Etc

                              JK

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