Vantage Premium Carpets

[WHERE IS THE SHOT]

Is anyone having problems with the vantage
premium carpet getting wider and expanding
over the edge of the front roller, a center
here in Toledo is having this problem, I'm
thinking of trying some Vantage carpets but
if this is what happens to them no thanks!

[8270king]

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Occasionally I have a Vantage premium that rolls over the edge......maybe 1 out of every 15 or so......they beauty of the premium carpet is you just take a razor knife to the edge that rolls over and they last for 3 or 4 more years.

My only beef with the Vantage premium is when it gets cold and oil soaked it does not want to go around the rear roller.....I take traction tape for steps and put a couple of 1 inch wide strips around the rear roller.....I have 2 lanes running like this for 7 months or so without any carpet wear from the inside.

JK

[tinpin]

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The only Vantage premium carpet I have ever had lasted me about 7 months and the seam started coming apart. I called my dealer and naturally he wanted t see the complete carpet, so out it came. I replaced it with what I always use, the cheapest Vantage carpet I can get. I don't like fooling with those stiff carpets. That premium carpet took almost 3 weeks to break in and it never ran like the softer ones. It was so stiff that the 6 lb balls we have would not go into the ball door.
The only problem I've had with the softer carpet is that after about 3 yrs some of the carpets started to pull to the ball door side. I simply put on the field fix spring behind the front roller bearing and solved the problem. Course I made sure that the front roller brackets were moving freely.

[kevin]

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I like the pumpkin-Tan Carpets my self.
Tuff to install and normally have to help them run
by hand for awhile. But once they start running on there own they are good to go.
Easy to clean also.
I only have ran them about 2 or 3 years but so far they have very low signs of wear [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif[/img]

[Steve Stafford (JBEES)]

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Originally posted by tinpin:
The only Vantage premium carpet I have ever had lasted me about 7 months and the seam started coming apart. I called my dealer and naturally he wanted t see the complete carpet, so out it came. I replaced it with what I always use, the cheapest Vantage carpet I can get. I don't like fooling with those stiff carpets. .

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm surprised Vantage didn't tell you that you had a problem...they were being hit by bowling balls...

[ModelTech]

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Hi guys!

I don't know who makes it (probably Via), but our new MC-2's have a bright green carpet that seems pretty tough, but it's thin, and DOES need help starting when brand new. Once it's broken in, though, it looks like it's wearing pretty good after a year. No fraying at the ball door, and not much in the way of "pit idlers", pins not making it to the wheel.

How long do the average NOS AMF(let's say the pumpkin/tan ones) carpets last, before ya have to replace 'em? These green ones, so far, impress me.

Doug

[Lampie]

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Is this what they mean with "Walking the DOUG"?

[8270king]

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Originally posted by StucKInThePit:
Hi guys!

I don't know who makes it (probably Via), but our new MC-2's have a bright green carpet that seems pretty tough, but it's thin, and DOES need help starting when brand new. Once it's broken in, though, it looks like it's wearing pretty good after a year. No fraying at the ball door, and not much in the way of "pit idlers", pins not making it to the wheel.

How long do the average NOS AMF(let's say the pumpkin/tan ones) carpets last, before ya have to replace 'em? These green ones, so far, impress me.

Doug

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Pumpkin/Tan cord carpets suck....the winding wraps around the roller bearings.....they break down at the ball door and impart dirt to pins and balls.

JK

[Coors]

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in my experience Vantage Premiums are the best.

there are a few VP's i installed in 89-90ish, that are still running to this day. VP's seem to be very forgiving as far as pit conditions are concerned. as King said if you have a roller support that freezes and the carpet rides and gets frayed. just fix the prob, razor the fray off and your back in buisness. and for those of you (i do) that use carpet brushes, the vantage premiums will not unravel.

pumpkins are nice, but they do not hold up to carpet brushes, and once the balldoor side of the carpet gets frayed, bye bye.

green ones are nice and light, easy to install. however the splice doesnt hold too well, IMHO, especially with brushes. the first green capret i got, used with brushes, didnt make it a year. but used without brushes the green are nice.

the goodyear carpet made by quality is nice, but is seems to curl at the balldoor, not allowing light balls to enter door without a running start.

[ModelTech]

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The black AMF carpet seems pretty tough.

Last Wed, was the last pit I did, and the carpet was black, had AMF stamped on it, but I have no idea what "model" it is.

After looking at this thing, I realized that it's pretty old, but wore VERY well. Snippety snip, on the frayed edges, and it's running great! I thought about using it as a treadmill (walking the Doug), but alas... :p

Doug

[ModelTech]

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Oh,

While we're on this subject, what were the colors of AMF's carpets? Our pumpkin ones are wearing nicely, as well as black. Was there a brick red one? Green one? Light tan (not pumpkin)?

So far, AMF's the way to go...

Does Murrey make one? They've got some pretty good stuff (what I've seen). Love their lanes...

Doug

[poplarpetey]

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I've been very happy with the AMF Pumpkin carpets. They are holding up very well.

King- it sounds like you are describing the AMF 3 ply carpets? (corded, unravel at door) I haven't seen any sign of this yet after 4 years with the pumpkin carpets. Were you using the pumpkins(090006024) or the 3 ply (000026753)? I had that problem with the 3 plys, they would start to break down at the ball door and unravel after a year or so. Then all that black crap would get all over everything.

Pete

[8270king]

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Originally posted by poplarpetey:
I've been very happy with the AMF Pumpkin carpets. They are holding up very well.

King- it sounds like you are describing the AMF 3 ply carpets? (corded, unravel at door) I haven't seen any sign of this yet after 4 years with the pumpkin carpets. Were you using the pumpkins(090006024) or the 3 ply (000026753)? I had that problem with the 3 plys, they would start to break down at the ball door and unravel after a year or so. Then all that black crap would get all over everything.

Pete

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Probably the 3ply.

JK

[vinson]

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Stick with AMFs carpets or Stahls white carpet they seem to be about the best, haven't tried MUrrays but based on their record probably worth a try,the mechanics have listed 3 things wrong with Vantage carpets,heed their warning. They streach ,they get oily and quit working and they come apart at the seams.

[ModelTech]

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Greetings, Vinson! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

Murray makes pretty good stuff. Hadn't thought about them...anybody use carpets from Murray?

(pen in hand, ready to take notes)

Doug