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O.k., the 82/70 was/is manufactured by AMF. But who actually designed/invented it. Somebody out there has gotta know.
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Re: WHERE DID THE 82/70 COME FROM?
well one day i came up with this design and sent it to AMF. 30 years later, still waiting for a thankyou.... [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img] -
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p.s. sorry for the pin pile ups... [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img]Comment
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by McCann:
well one day i came up with this design and sent it to AMF. 30 years later, still waiting for a thankyou.... [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img]
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Re: WHERE DID THE 82/70 COME FROM?
Well, TableJam, I guess it's up to me...
In 1963/64, Roy Blewitt Jr. came up with the idea of the 8270. That's not what it was called, tho'. The name escapes me right now, but the machine we all know and love, actually wasn't "perfected" (still hasn't) until 1969. The distributor was NOTHING like it is today, the pins actually came off the SIDE, and the bin pockets ROTATED to drop the pins in the cups.
The table was different, as well. The cups were solid, and altho' the table casting was shaped similarly, it was full of wireways and switches.
The only thing that hasn't changed (except a shock absorber in place of the 3223 link) is the sweep. One of Mr. Blewitt's greatest 8270 inventions. As I understand it, from the patent page, he wanted to improve the sweep design, so it would not bind, it would glide smoothly, and not send deadwood out into the lane, if it got hung up under the bar itself.
If ya want, I'll e-mail ya the patent pictures and text of the original machine. The files are quite large, and I'm on dial-up, so I may have to shrink 'em a bit...
Lemme know!
And for those who DON'T like the 8270 (There are a few out there somewhere), you might say that:
Roy Blew Itt !!!
DougComment
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm not one of em, 70's forever! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]And for those who DON'T like the 8270 (There are a few out there somewhere)All I want in life is to turn wrenches and climb around pinsetters/pinspotters again :/Comment
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Doug, you are off in a couple of points- the pin cups were not solid; they were made from bent wire. Also, AMF was installing them in 1962. My place opened in '62 with 8270A's. The absolute WORST desighned machines EVER. The upgrade was better, but I still like the 82-30s [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] !!!!!!
TOONGene Simmons for president!!!Comment
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Where did the AMF 82-70 come from?Originally posted by TABLEJAM:
O.k., the 82/70 was/is manufactured by AMF. But who actually designed/invented it. Somebody out there has gotta know.
The mothership.
(Sorry I couldn't resist)
*ducking the broken pins being chucked at me*-Kris WComment
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Toon,
1962??? Wow, WAS off a bit, wasn't I?
I'd better check that page again...
Yep, May 19, 1962! Thanks Tony! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
I HAVE seen the solid plastic (?) cups, and thought those were the first ones...
I agree with the statement about the 8230's...
Case in point:
Six brand new 8270-types, and eighteen 8230's in one house.
Day shift 8 - 5 on Sat.
Calls?
8270 machines: 24
8230 machines: 0 (ZERO)
4 seasoned pro's have worked night and day trying to find what's wrong (I have my opinions, but will keep them to myself).
The 8230's click, click, click away...running without a stop. Buck-toothed grins, peeking out from under the mask...kinda poetic ain't it?
I'd better change my profile, or to the people we buy these from, I will be known as a "plick".
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the 8270...I just don't like the way THESE run. The first two we got run fine...maybe one call on each of those, that day. The other four? Use 'em for show. They sure don't run for long!
DComment
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Candlepin Techie:
Hey Kris, lookout...there's that Mothership!!!
AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH
DComment
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I have some pics of the '70-A if you're interested... Let me know.<span style="font-style: italic">Educatio est omnium efficacissima forma rebellionis</span>Comment
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think they were born on Long island in NY harbor. My 70's are all stamped Sept/1965. The AMF was ship foundry in New york Harbor.That's what I heard.Originally posted by TABLEJAM:
O.k., the 82/70 was/is manufactured by AMF. But who actually designed/invented it. Somebody out there has gotta know.Help me!!! My 70's have me by the nuts.Comment
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I still use this drawing!!!!
Look at the date!
Martin
[img]http://pic2.****************/VOL26/934456/1718790/28483139.jpg[/img]So it goes.Comment
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STUCKINTHEPIT I would love to check out those files you have, here's my e-mail link and I have one question: if this machine did not come out 'till the mid 60's how is it that on the control boxes of some of our 70's-(the ones with a RESPOT SOLENOID on the front), is the amf logo from '59? Or did I miss something. tmcdllr@aol.comComment
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OK T.J.!
An Adobe PDF file is on its way to ya! I had to distill it with Adobe, as the files were so big. I made one document with everything, so (hopefully you have Adobe Reader) you've got what I have...
Mr. Blewitt spells it out pretty well, I'd say...
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