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I HAVE JUST LOST MY 2ND TECH TO ANOTHER CENTRE (HE WAS ****ING S**T ANYWAY!!!!!!! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] ).
I HAVE A NEW TRAINEE TECH WHO IS A BIT SLOW [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] , I HAVE NEVER NEEDED TO TRAIN ANYONE BEFORE WHATS THE BEST WAY TO MAKE SOMEONE A 8270 KING? [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] .
You can send him to Pinspotter Training School at AMF. The classes are held in actual centers on actual machines. It won't turn you into a king overnight but it is a great starting point. I went to the class and I have a much better understanding of the machines than before I went. You can go to AMF.com and sign up.
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The first thing that needs to be done when training anyone to work on or fix any type of machinery is explain thoroughly how it is "supposed" to work. Once a (good) mechanic knows how a piece of machinery is supposed to work, it makes it a lot easier to resolve and troubleshoot problems. Explain to him the idea of the 20 pin bin and how the shuttling of the pins into the cups works. Show him what all the cams and switches in the front end do. And very importantly with a 70, explain how the distributor works and the principle of the clutch and it's parts. Do this with every major part of the machine until he feels comfortable with it. Once he knows more less how it is supposed to work, then go into more depth such as little tricks to fixing little problems and how to make minor adjustments. One of the best teachers is experience. If he wants to learn then he should turn out just fine. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]
Louie
Experience: Currently Help Maintain 44 82-30s and 50 82-70s.
Send him my way......for $1000 you will get 1 week of training and I will send him back a wise a$$ and a able to fix a pin jam.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">rofl King! I do totally agree with Louie here though, if the interest is there and the person truly wants to learn the machine, they can be a great mechanic. When I started I had a VEEY basic idea of the machines, I could clear offspots or pinpiles, pretty much any simple call. I was taught how to respot pins my first day, and since I've learned a lot simply by playing sponge, i.e. ANY time a machine was down (even if I wasn't on the clock, made no difference to me) I was in the back asking what was wrong, what caused it, and how to fix it. Between doing that and reading posts here on BT, I've gathered a wealth of knowledge
All I want in life is to turn wrenches and climb around pinsetters/pinspotters again :/
To break in a pinnie (and starting out a new 'mech in training' is about the same), I took a week with 'em, showing the basics... if this guy was never introduced to a bowling machine of that model before, lay down the foundations...
At least 3-4 days of just watching what goes on with the machines, while showing them the simple things like:
What areas are 'safe'
Where to NOT put your hands (like in the shuttle)
How to power the machine and components OFF
Where the main circuit breakers for the machines and scoring are
Where things are kept... MSDS information, first-aid kit, tools, parts, etc...
How to respot a pin, clear a jam, simple stuff.
How to run and operate the machine from the rear control box. (sweep run, sweep reverse, cycle, P/S/T switches, etc...)
How to set up the machine (sweep down, switches off) to climb into it safely during a league.
once they have that down, next comes showing them some of the more difficult 'pinnie' stuff... adjusting a clutch (tension), changing/replacing a kicker belt, changing a respot cell, changing a spotting cup, changing a combo motor, and replacing a pit light bulb/starter.
Next they do a week as a pinchaser, with myself or another 'experienced' pinnie keeping an eye on him. He does the work, and if he has a question or a problem, he can ask about it.
As long as he's doing OK and seems to have the basics down, he will start on his own as a pinchaser.
After that, it's just a matter of starting with the easier stuff, and working up to the harder stuff, for as far as you want to take 'em.
<span style="font-style: italic">Educatio est omnium efficacissima forma rebellionis</span>
Very nice list there G, where I am was short handed in the back when I started, so I was alone, but there was another mechanic on the other side in case I needed help. I pretty much knew most of the stuff in your list before I even started work, but I do agree that's a good way to break a new guy in
All I want in life is to turn wrenches and climb around pinsetters/pinspotters again :/
Origonally posted by The Hammer
__________________________________________________ ____ WHATS THE BEST WAY TO MAKE SOMEONE A 8270 KING?
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1st, teach him to dress the lanes and make sure he drags the cord across the entire center.
2nd, Anytime a project looks like it will take time away from flirting with the snackbar chick, appoint someone from the KingDUMB to do it.
3rd, Tip from the KingDUMB, Remember, if you are using that much floor dry every night go ahead and pull that motor and we'll send it to Chaddy.
Seriously, if the new guy is green, they stick to me like glue for two weeks before they are on their own.
I completely take them through every assembly and every possible malfunction scenario. I train my guys well and a few of them have their own centers and a couple installers too.
Pinspotters do not break down when they are not running!
Originally posted by Mike Stalker: Origonally posted by The Hammer
__________________________________________________ ____ WHATS THE BEST WAY TO MAKE SOMEONE A 8270 KING?
__________________________________________________ ____
1st, teach him to dress the lanes and make sure he drags the cord across the entire center.
2nd, Anytime a project looks like it will take time away from flirting with the snackbar chick, appoint someone from the KingDUM to do it.
3rd, Tip from the KingDUM, Remember, if you are using that much floor dry every night go ahead and pull that motor and we'll send it to Chaddy.
Seriously, if the new guy is green, they stick to me like glue for two weeks before they are on their own.
I completely take them through every assembly and every possible malfunction scenario. I train my guys well and a few of them have their own centers and a couple installers too.
I was a self tought tech and had never seen a AMF machine in my life, all i had was the manual (AND THAT ONLY GETS YOU SO FAR!) and some very sh*t tech's above me who made me better by braking things [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] , there all gone now! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] (THANK ****). Anyway six years later i'm now the "8270KING OF SCOTLAND" but i've been given the task of training a boy who has never held a spanner in his life. We only have myself and a part time tech. I need my trainee to get good fast because our part time tech wont be around forever (hi Alastair [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] ).
Thanx for the ideas this is basically what i have been doing with him. I thought that you guys might have formal (not AMF school) training program.
"BANG IT IN LIKE A HAMMER RIGHT UP THE DINNER GIRLS"
NOTHING HITS LIKE A HAMMER [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
Well when I have new Tech's training, I start him with the kettle, and teach them how to make me a nice cup of coffee!!!! Hey, they've got to start somewhere!!!!
i d0 every thing louie said and after 1 year and over a half he is still a dumb ass. he even failed the "C" mechanics test twice !! think you got it bad he still is employed there and works in the pits we call him the "ANTI-MECHANIC"
Can somebody give an explaniton how pins 2, 3, 6 are supposed to be connected. I had a shortcircuit there for the drive motor connection because of water leakage.
I have a distributor that is pulling the belt hard to the left in the nine pin position (and possibly 6 pin), but seems fine in the other spots. As you can see the residue and...
I have several Pin Elevators that I believe to be out of round on my XLi's and was curious if anyone has ever run across this before and is so, what you did about it.
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