82-40,50,60s?

[Wally]

Hi all its been a while...got a new job outside AMF..thought i was getting better money...now Im broke.. anyway.. I was just catching up on the forums when i thought of somthing...
there's 82-30's and 82-70's...was there ever a
82-40? 82-50? 82-60? and if not..why the jump in numbers?

[TheGMan143]

Re: 82-40,50,60s?

Not really... AMF didn't go sequentially.

There was the 4400, 5850(?),5850-Stearns, 82/30 (with several conversions), 82/70 /70A /70B /70C, 82/90, 82/90XL, and now the overseas knockoffs... Yangji Vision and others.

[Alastair]

Re: 82-40,50,60s?

I believe the reason for the names is to do with the angle of the PBL's. The first machine 82-30, had a verticall ish lift at a 30 degree angle.
On the 82-70 the pbl is angled a 70 degrees. Thus the name. Unsure about the 82 part though.

[Ar Rar]

Re: 82-40,50,60s?

Originally posted by Alastair:
I believe the reason for the names is to do with the angle of the PBL's. The first machine 82-30, had a verticall ish lift at a 30 degree angle.
On the 82-70 the pbl is angled a 70 degrees. Thus the name. Unsure about the 82 part though.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm guessing that geometry wasn't your strongest subject in school. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

Roger

[Louie_IV]

Re: 82-40,50,60s?

The 82 stands for the number of engineers it took to come up with the many mechanical failures. The 30 and the 70 are the number of monthly calls the machines get. :p

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[mechanic8230]

Re: 82-40,50,60s?

The 4400 and 5850 were model numbers of the 82-30. I have worked on both of those models as well as the 6525. 5850 Stearns? Don't forget the 82-70 SS and MP and the updated 70-XL. A vertical lift at 30 degrees is no longer vertical. Simple geometry.

[Coors]

Re: 82-40,50,60s?

i have no ideal the logic behind the 30 numbers. but as far as the 70's well it came out in '62 so they dubbed it the 70. elco chassis came out around 67ish, so it was called the 6700. the c23 came out aroun '77, so they dubbed it the 7750 chassis, why the MP which came out in '78 was dubbed the 9800???. and the 82-90 came out around 1990. the 8800, was the address of AMF. (8800 AMF drive) so they named the gold, the 8800 gold.

[Lampie]

Re: 82-40,50,60s?

Originally posted by Louie:
The 82 stands for the number or engineers it took to come up with the many mechanical failures. The 30 and the 70 are the number of monthly calls the machines get. :p

Louie [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

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[Alastair]

Re: 82-40,50,60s?

For a fact, my lane re-surfacer was the man who re-designed the 82-70 MP chassis, when it came out the flaws in the machine (electrically) were terrible.!! He spent days on board the AMF bosses boat, re-working the design of the machine. Do you believe that AMF also brought out a solid front roller!! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]
They tested it in the warehouse and seemed to run fine! But in reality it was guff! It kept popping out all the time! The 82-70 is derived from the fact that the pbl is at 70 degrees!!!!! Place your bets NOW [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

[Kat]

Re: 82-40,50,60s?

82-x

The 82 is the "class" of machinery/equipment. Since AMF at the time had their hands in many pots making different machines they had to distinguish. 82 was for bowling equipment.

The 30/70/90/ and so forth is the "division". This nummer indicated the current project in the class being worked on.

30, 70, 90s, obvious.
08- Those ancient Radaray foul-lights.
120- Not much better.
190- Sure-Stucks
231- Tragic-Score
232- AccuScore family

It's an incomplete list, but you get the idea.
There used to be a listing of all the divisions by equipment models in the price pages a few years back. I think AMF just kept with their numbering scheme. I will say, though, it does make good sense and is nice when organizing parts.

[DetroitSignal]

Re: 82-40,50,60s?

Originally posted by Kat:
82-x

The 82 is the "class" of machinery/equipment. Since AMF at the time had their hands in many pots making different machines they had to distinguish. 82 was for bowling equipment.

The 30/70/90/ and so forth is the "division". This nummer indicated the current project in the class being worked on.

30, 70, 90s, obvious.
08- Those ancient Radaray foul-lights.
120- Not much better.
190- Sure-Stucks
231- Tragic-Score
232- AccuScore family

It's an incomplete list, but you get the idea.
There used to be a listing of all the divisions by equipment models in the price pages a few years back. I think AMF just kept with their numbering scheme. I will say, though, it does make good sense and is nice when organizing parts.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">82-610 : Model 148 Score Projector (Nov. '73)
82-57 : Free Standing Magic Circle Return

[Mr_Laneman]

Re: 82-40,50,60s?

Kat is correct on this one.

[wb8yjf]

Re: 82-40,50,60s?

Here is one I bet very few have heard about. I have a mnaual for the <font color=red>82-25!</font> When I was with AMF, I was told that they only made 40-50 of these, They were a weird bird. The pins were fed <font color=blue>UPSIDE-DOWN</font>, and the shuttle would actually <font color=red>FLIP</font> the pins over when spotting! I was told they only had them in ONE house, in NY (I think AMF HQ) at the time. The guy I got this from was with AMF since 1950 or so. (He lives about 2 miles from me in OH). I have to dig that manual out. If anyone is interested, I can give 'em a copy for the price of copying + postage.

See ya, Jon

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[talkintrash]

Re: 82-40,50,60s?

[8270king]

Re: 82-40,50,60s?

Originally posted by wb8yjf:
Here is one I bet very few have heard about. I have a mnaual for the <font color=red>82-25!</font> When I was with AMF, I was told that they only made 40-50 of these, They were a weird bird. The pins were fed <font color=blue>UPSIDE-DOWN</font>, and the shuttle would actually <font color=red>FLIP</font> the pins over when spotting! I was told they only had them in ONE house, in NY (I think AMF HQ) at the time. The guy I got this from was with AMF since 1950 or so. (He lives about 2 miles from me in OH). I have to dig that manual out. If anyone is interested, I can give 'em a copy for the price of copying + postage.

See ya, Jon

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I would love to have a copy of the manual......let me know how much...

I have a gennie AMF lane replacement parts catalog from the early 60's.....wow

JK