BALL IDLES AGAINST CUSHION

[Tablejam]

What can cause a ball to idle against the cushion on the ball-door side? I'm looking for a "quick-fix" if there is one. I've already removed the rivets on that side and it helped a little. I haven't checked the shock or the pit yet. Any other possibilities? Thanks all

[Ed Fox]

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Bunna rubber is exposed or you have a rubber style facing. Is the ball spinning or sitting there still?

Charlie [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

[8270 pinspotter]

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Could be a broken or loose pit support bracket or a worn cushion facing. If you have an AMF pumkin carpet on that machine, that could also be helping the problem along. Most likely the cushion shock is not the problem, but it wouldn't hurt to check it out anyway.

[ewen]

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TABLEJAM,
Here is a quick fix for you. Install a rubber rivet backwards , in the bottom cushion hole on the ball door side. Do not run it through the plank. Pull the cushion sponge away from the plank and insert the rivet through the hole in the sponge .Then continue to pull the rivet through the pad . The protrusion of the rivet will push the ball away from the cushion.

Mark

[8270king]

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Get rid of the "Total Cushion".

JK

[Pindecked]

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Originally posted by 82/70 king:
Get rid of the "Total Cushion".

JK

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">For Sure !! The white plastic plank is crap,too.
When we bought our 70's ,there was a mix of these two cushions...they're almost all out of here now. The Wood plank,pad,foam, rivet system is still the best.

[BruceH]

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Quick Fix:Possibly
Brkt shock Mech, remove X washer, pull pin out, turn brkt upside down &amp; reinstall in reverse order. This should push your cushion out further &amp; the ball to roll to ball door.
BUT!!! Don't rig it!
Check the shock assy, check the bounce board mounts, check the cushion assy, check the bpunce board shock mounts, check it all!!! Fix it right and leave behind you.

[8270king]

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Originally posted by BruceH:

BUT!!! Don't rig it!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree....DO NOT turn the shock mointing bracket upside down!

Any ball thrown hard will rebound back on to the lane and roll back the lane to the bowler.

Jerry

[Coors]

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-pop front roller out and through the ball door if you wish
-take out 4 nuts holding bounce plates.
-with one hand pull the ball door side of bounce plates up, with the other slip some big washers on the Ball door side rear bracket bolt (beneath the rear dampner)
-shouldnt take more than 10 minutes.

[Ed Fox]

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Originally posted by Coors:
-pop front roller out and through the ball door if you wish
-take out 4 nuts holding bounce plates.
-with one hand pull the ball door side of bounce plates up, with the other slip some big washers on the Ball door side rear bracket bolt (beneath the rear dampner)
-shouldnt take more than 10 minutes.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Coors...where did you learn that one...from Queen? :p

Charlie [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

[Pindecked]

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Another bad to flipping the bracket up-side down is that it will likely give the cushion a'hair trigger'. Pins falling off the dizzy can cycle the machine= busted sweeps from the gorilla bowler.

[8270king]

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Originally posted by Ed Fox:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Coors:
-pop front roller out and through the ball door if you wish
-take out 4 nuts holding bounce plates.
-with one hand pull the ball door side of bounce plates up, with the other slip some big washers on the Ball door side rear bracket bolt (beneath the rear dampner)
-shouldnt take more than 10 minutes.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Coors...where did you learn that one...from KING [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] ? :p

Charlie [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have shimmed a bounce board or three in my life.

JK

[kevin]

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I drilled two new holes Back about a inch farther than the originals on the Cushion Block Bracket.(Took it off the machine first)Then I re-installed the cushion block in the same bolt holes on the Kickback but used the new holes in the cushion block bracket. This Moves the Cushion Assembly forward on the ball door side. then on the 90's it has another hole to move the cushion forward about an inch on the top. So it can be moved right with the cushion. If this works then all I will have to do is drill a new hole in the Kick back threw the back hole on the cushion bracket. So that I can get the 3rd bolt in the Cushion block bracket.
I have been testing it for about 2 weeks - No problems since. It was a everyday problem.

[kevin]

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Originally posted by kevin:
TESTING [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

I drilled two new holes Back about a inch farther than the originals on the Cushion Block Bracket.(Took it off the machine first)Then I re-installed the cushion block in the same bolt holes on the Kickback but used the new holes in the cushion block bracket. This Moves the Cushion Assembly forward on the ball door side. then on the 90's it has another hole to move the cushion ( Shock )forward about an inch on the top. So it can be moved right with the cushion. If this works then all I will have to do is drill a new hole in the Kick back threw the back hole on the cushion bracket. So that I can get the 3rd bolt in the Cushion block bracket.
I have been testing it for about 2 weeks - No problems since. It was a everyday problem.

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[TheLegend]

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You can also use the spacer block from an 82/30 cushion assembly. Mount it between he weldment and the plank with longer bolts.