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    Has anyone found a belt dressing that may help with belts on lifts and/or sure piks?

  • #2
    Re: belt dressing

    Clean the belts every other day with clorinite8 and steel wool. works great [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

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    • #3
      Re: belt dressing

      Belt dressing sucks!! It is a useful as duct tape. In my opinion it is a temparory Solution. Use it to get you through the last few frames of a set then clean it off and fix the problem right.

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      • #4
        Re: belt dressing

        Belt dressing is only a temporary fix, and like it was mentioned, use it to get you out of a jam, but don't use it as the final solution to the problem.

        If you have kicker lifts, the usual problems for kicker belts slipping are oil on the belts, the belts are stretched and don't have enough tension to drive properly, or (if you have them) the aluminum pulley v-groove is so worn out that it doesn't produce enough traction on the belt. Because kicker belts are 'bent' while running, they also get polished on the sides, which causes them to slip.

        Ball lift belts can slip if there's too much tension on the lift belt, causing it to have to drive very hard when a ball is going up the tracks. Clutch problems and tensioner problems can also cause them to slip.

        Shur-Pik drive belts usually slip for some of the same reasons. The pulleys are worn out and not gripping the belt properly, or too much tension on the lift belt or leather. Another problem commonly found on shur piks is the pulleys themselves... there were shur-piks out there designed to run with a round belt (looks like a big O-ring)... the pulleys have a soft, round groove instead of a 'V'. If you use a v-belt with a drive pulley like that, it's only driving on the lower edges of the belt's 'V', and will slip easily. Get rid of those pulleys (and any round-belt systems you have.. they sucked... poor design idea), and replace them with 'V' pulleys.
        <span style="font-style: italic">Educatio est omnium efficacissima forma rebellionis</span>

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        • #5
          Re: belt dressing

          Originally posted by seneca lanes:
          Has anyone found a belt dressing that may help with belts on lifts and/or sure piks?
          <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What is chlonite8 made of? I can't seem to find it here.

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          • #6
            Re: belt dressing

            Originally posted by seneca lanes:
            </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by seneca lanes:
            Has anyone found a belt dressing that may help with belts on lifts and/or sure piks?
            <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What is chlonite8 made of? I can't seem to find it here.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">DBA Chlorinite

            JK

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            • #7
              Re: belt dressing

              DBA Chlorinite is an awesome cleaner/degreaser... it's also very nasty stuff: Methylene Chloride... 100% Methylene Chloride if I'm correct. It'll clean just about anything off of anything, but it has some pretty mean side effects on the human body, is currently on the 'restricted use' list in many areas, and is federally classified as "toxic waste" when it's being disposed of.

              I also wouldn't recommend using it to clean oil off of belts... it eats rubber like crazy.

              Here's the rap sheet on it, it's a long, technical read, but you may want to take a look at the "health" section:

              <table width="100%" nowrap><tr><td>
              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              MSDS for METHYLENE CHLORIDE
              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              1 - PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION
              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              PRODUCT NAME: METHYLENE CHLORIDE
              FORMULA: CH2CL2F
              ORMULA WT: 84.93
              CAS NO.: 75-09-2
              NIOSH/RTECS NO.: PA8050000
              COMMON SYNONYMS: DICHLOROMETHANE; METHYLENE DICHLORIDE;
              METHANE DICHLORIDE
              PRODUCT CODES: 9324,9341,Q480,9330,5378,5531,9315,9329,9264
              EFFECTIVE: 10/24/86
              REVISION #03
              PRECAUTIONARY LABELLING
              BAKER SAF-T-DATA(TM) SYSTEM
              HEALTH - 3 SEVERE (CANCER CAUSING)
              FLAMMABILITY - 1 SLIGHT
              REACTIVITY - 1 SLIGHT
              CONTACT - 2 MODERATE
              HAZARD RATINGS ARE 0 TO 4 (0 = NO HAZARD; 4 = EXTREME HAZARD).

              LABORATORY PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT

              GOGGLES &amp; SHIELD; LAB COAT &amp; APRON; VENT HOOD; PROPER GLOVES

              PRECAUTIONARY LABEL STATEMENTS

              POISON DANGER
              CAUSES IRRITATION
              HARMFUL IF ABSORBED THROUGH SKIN
              MAY BE FATAL IF SWALLOWED OR INHALED
              NOTE: REPORTED AS CAUSING CANCER IN LABORATORY ANIMALS. EXERCISE
              DUE CARE.
              AVOID CONTACT WITH EYES, SKIN, CLOTHING.
              KEEP IN TIGHTLY CLOSED CONTAINER. WASH THOROUGHLY AFTER HANDLING.

              SAF-T-DATA(TM) STORAGE COLOR CODE: BLUE (HEALTH)
              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              2 - HAZARDOUS COMPONENTS
              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

              COMPONENT % CAS NO.
              METHYLENE CHLORIDE 90-100 75-09-2

              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              3 - PHYSICAL DATA
              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              BOILING POINT: 40 C ( 104 F) VAPOR PRESSURE(MM HG): 350

              MELTING POINT: -95 C ( -139 F) VAPOR DENSITY(AIR=1): 2.9

              SPECIFIC GRAVITY: 1.32 EVAPORATION RATE: 27.5
              (H2O=1) (BUTYL ACETATE=1)

              SOLUBILITY(H2O): MODERATE (1 TO 10 %) % VOLATILES BY VOLUME: 100

              APPEARANCE &amp; ODOR: COLORLESS,VOLATILE LIQUID WITH
              PENETRATING, ETHER-LIKE ODOR.

              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              4 - FIRE AND EXPLOSION HAZARD DATA
              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              FLASH POINT (CLOSED CUP N/A NFPA 704M RATING: 2-1-0

              FLAMMABLE LIMITS: UPPER - 19 % LOWER - 12 %

              FIRE EXTINGUISHING MEDIA
              USE EXTINGUISHING MEDIA APPROPRIATE FOR SURROUNDING FIRE.

              SPECIAL FIRE-FIGHTING PROCEDURES
              FIREFIGHTERS SHOULD WEAR PROPER PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT AND
              SELF-CONTAINED
              BREATHING APPARATUS WITH FULL FACEPIECE OPERATED IN POSITIVE
              PRESSURE MODE.
              MOVE CONTAINERS FROM FIRE AREA IF IT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT RISK. USE
              WATER
              TO KEEP FIRE-EXPOSED CONTAINERS COOL.

              UNUSUAL FIRE &amp; EXPLOSION HAZARDS
              CLOSED CONTAINERS EXPOSED TO HEAT MAY EXPLODE.

              TOXIC GASES PRODUCED HYDROGEN CHLORIDE, PHOSGENE, CARBON
              MONOXIDE, CARBON DIOXIDE

              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              5 - HEALTH HAZARD DATA
              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              ACGIH DENOTES THAT THIS SUBSTANCE IS SUSPECT OF CARCINOGENIC (CANCER-CAUSING)
              POTENTIAL FOR MAN.

              THRESHOLD LIMIT VALUE (TLV/TWA): 350 MG/M3 ( 100 PPM)
              SHORT-TERM EXPOSURE LIMIT (STEL): 1740 MG/M3 ( 500 PPM)
              PERMISSIBLE EXPOSURE LIMIT (PEL): MG/M3 ( 500 PPM)

              TOXICITY: LD50 (ORAL-RAT)(MG/KG) - 2524
              LD50 (IPR-MOUSE)(MG/KG) - 1500
              LD50 (SCU-MOUSE)(MG/KG) - 6460
              LC50 (INHAL-RAT-)(G/M3) - 88

              CARCINOGENICITY: NTP: NO IARC: NO Z LIST: NO OSHA REG: NO

              EFFECTS OF OVEREXPOSURE
              INHALATION AND INGESTION ARE HARMFUL AND MAY BE FATAL.
              INHALATION MAY CAUSE HEADACHE, NAUSEA, VOMITING, DIZZINESS, NARCOSIS,
              SUFFOCATION, LOWER BLOOD PRESSURE, CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSION.
              INHALATION OF VAPORS MAY CAUSE SEVERE IRRITATION OF THE RESPIRATORY
              SYSTEM. LIQUID MAY BE IRRITATING TO SKIN AND EYES. PROLONGED SKIN CONTACT
              MAY RESULT IN DERMATITIS. EYE CONTACT MAY RESULT IN TEMPORARY CORNEAL
              DAMAGE.

              INGESTION MAY CAUSE NAUSEA, VOMITING, GASTROINTESTINAL IRRITATION, AND
              BURNS TO MOUTH AND THROAT.

              TARGET ORGANS
              SKIN, CARDIOVASCULAR SYSTEM, CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM, EYES

              MEDICAL CONDITIONS GENERALLY AGGRAVATED BY EXPOSURE
              MAY AGGRAVATE ASTHMA AND SINUS CONDITIONS

              ROUTES OF ENTRY
              INHALATION, INGESTION, SKIN CONTACT, EYE CONTACT

              EMERGENCY AND FIRST AID PROCEDURES
              CALL A PHYSICIAN.
              IF SWALLOWED, DO NOT INDUCE VOMITING.
              IF INHALED, REMOVE TO FRESH AIR. IF NOT BREATHING, GIVE ARTIFICIAL
              RESPIRATION. IF BREATHING IS DIFFICULT, GIVE OXYGEN.
              IN CASE OF CONTACT, IMMEDIATELY FLUSH EYES WITH PLENTY OF WATER
              FOR AT LEAST 15 MINUTES. FLUSH SKIN WITH WATER.

              ACCEPTABLE MAXIMUM PEAK ABOVE THE ACCEPTANCE CEILING CONCENTRATION
              FOR AN 8 HOUR SHIFT = 2000 PPM FOR 5 MINUTES IN ANY 2HOURS. (PEL) CEILING
              = 1000 PPM

              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              6 - REACTIVITY DATA
              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

              STABILITY: STABLE HAZARDOUS POLYMERIZATION: WILL NOT OCCUR

              CONDITIONS TO AVOID: HEAT, FLAME, OTHER SOURCES OF IGNITION, MOISTURE

              INCOMPATIBLES: ALKALI METALS, STRONG OXIDIZING AGENTS, STRONG
              BASES, OXIDES OF NITROGEN, ZINC, ALUMINUM, WATER,
              MAGNESIUM, AMINES

              DECOMPOSITION PRODUCTS: HYDROGEN CHLORIDE, PHOSGENE,
              CARBON MONOXIDE, CARBON DIOXIDE

              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              7 - SPILL AND DISPOSAL PROCEDURES
              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

              STEPS TO BE TAKEN IN THE EVENT OF A SPILL OR DISCHARGE
              WEAR SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS AND FULL PROTECTIVE CLOTHING.
              STOP LEAK IF YOU CAN DO SO WITHOUT RISK. USE WATER SPRAY TO REDUCE VAPORS.
              TAKE UP WITH SAND OR OTHER NON-COMBUSTIBLE ABSORBENT MATERIALAND PLACE
              INTO CONTAINER FOR LATER DISPOSAL. FLUSH SPILL AREA WITH WATER.

              DISPOSAL PROCEDURE
              DISPOSE IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL
              ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS.

              EPA HAZARDOUS WASTE NUMBER: U080 (TOXIC WASTE)

              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              8 - PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT
              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              VENTILATION: USE GENERAL OR LOCAL EXHAUST VENTILATION TO MEET
              TLV REQUIREMENTS.

              RESPIRATORY PROTECTION: RESPIRATORY PROTECTION REQUIRED IF AIRBORNE
              CONCENTRATION EXCEEDS TLV. AT CONCENTRATIONS
              ABOVE 100 PPM, A SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING
              APPARATUS IS ADVISED.

              EYE/SKIN PROTECTION: SAFETY GOGGLES AND FACE SHIELD, UNIFORM,
              PROTECTIVE SUIT, POLYVINYL ALCOHOL GLOVES ARE
              RECOMMENDED.

              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              9 - STORAGE AND HANDLING PRECAUTIONS
              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              SAF-T-DATA(TM) STORAGE COLOR CODE: BLUE (HEALTH)

              SPECIAL PRECAUTIONS
              KEEP CONTAINER TIGHTLY CLOSED. STORE IN SECURE POISON AREA.
              KEEP CONTAINERS OUT OF SUN AND AWAY FROM HEAT.

              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              10 - TRANSPORTATION DATA AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              DOMESTIC (D.O.T.)

              PROPER SHIPPING NAME DICHLOROMETHANE (AIR ONLY)
              HAZARD CLASS ORM-A
              UN/NA UN1593
              LABELS NONE
              REPORTABLE QUANTITY 1000 LBS.

              INTERNATIONAL (I.M.O.)

              PROPER SHIPPING NAME DICHLOROMETHANE
              HAZARD CLASS 6.1
              UN/NA UN1593
              LABELS HARMFUL - STOW AWAY FROM FOOD STUFFS
              </tr></td></table>
              <span style="font-style: italic">Educatio est omnium efficacissima forma rebellionis</span>

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              • #8
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                Causes; Frost Bite Too! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] nuff said [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]
                If at first you don't succeed, try, try, again. Then quit. There's no use being a damn fool about it.&quot; -W.C.Fields

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                • #9
                  Re: belt dressing

                  Make sure you remove your contacts as well...the fumes will melt them to your eye balls! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]

                  Charlie [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
                  Please buy MADE IN USA!

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