Sur pik hand dryer motor

[pat]

Hey where can I get the best price on a motor for a hand dryer on a sur pik? I was asked to look around and find the best price so I thought I would start here. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] :p

I could not find one in granger..... is there a granger number for this motor?

I can't even find an AMF part number for this.

What a day! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shocked.gif[/img]

Thanks for the help guys.

Pat

[Rep]

Re: Sur pik hand dryer motor

Pat, I can get you an AMF part number if you'd like. Do you use the dual ones for the ones with a hand dryer on each side or the single sided ones for the "Y" type Sure-Piks?

[TheGMan143]

Re: Sur pik hand dryer motor

We were getting ours from Vantage... pricing was pretty decent.

Grainger does have a similar one... take a look at STOCK# 4C441, for the "arrow" single-blower returns.

For the lazy susan returns (double-blower), we had a whole bunch of extra parts for them... we got replacement motors from Grainger (if I remember right), rebuilt about 8-10 of them, and stuck them on the shelf as spares. I can't find the stock# for the motor... but I remember that all we did is took an old blower to Grainger, and the guy looked up the replacement motor for us.

Those blowers rebuild very easily, and the motors are cheap. Throw the housings and cages in a parts washer to clean them up, blow them off with some compressor air, and put them back together.

[pat]

Re: Sur pik hand dryer motor

Hey I got the part number

208 111-170

I am getting prices like $76.00. This just looks like a $30 motor to me.

G-man would the grager motor work for this motor?

I am getting that this may be a discontinued motor also.

Thanks

[8270king]

Re: Sur pik hand dryer motor

If you want the single shaft motor to work.....go to the hardware store and get pvc y pipe and connect the 2 hoses to the y and connect the end of the pipe to the blower motor.

JK

[pat]

Re: Sur pik hand dryer motor

Good idea King, that is what I was thinking.

I found one at grainger that was a match 4c015 $73.00

I found others for around the $70 price range. Then I called Sthals and they have just the moror, it sounds like, for $38.00 !!

Thanks for all the help guys.
Pat

[cabber]

Re: Sur pik hand dryer motor

Heat ?

I got a new v208.111.107 blower motor from vantage. It had two vents but to fit it in the surepik i had to remove the "upper"-one. Applied power to it and it runned fine then.

After a while bowlers started playing there and they reported the handdryer had stopped. I informed them i just replaced it and would check it out later....then suddenly after a while they cheered it has started running again.

Seems the thermal protection had been activated, but why ? Was it not so smart to remove the "upper"-one vent because it cools the motor itself ?

I checked the voltage already, thats ok, 115V.

Somebody perhaps reckognises this and more much important,...how did you fix it ? [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

[TheGMan143]

Re: Sur pik hand dryer motor

Usually both cages move air through the motor... the holes on the side of the motor case draw air into it, and there are holes on the endcaps that match up with holes in the blower housings... when the blower is running, the vacuum of the cage pulls some air through those holes.

Now, since you are outside the US, I'm not too familiar with your mains power standards. Ours is 120V 60Hz. I know the UK and some others use 50HZ power... you can run a 50HZ motor on 60HZ without any trouble, but running a 60HZ motor on 50HZ will cause it to heat up quite a bit.

If you're running 50HZ power in your area, take a look at the motor and make sure it's not a 60HZ unit. If it is, that's probably the reason it's overheating.

If the power is OK, pull the cage and make sure that the motor's vents and the housing vent holes are lined up. If they're not, then the motor probably isn't getting much airflow... those little motors don't have internal fans for cooling.

If everything checks out, it's possible that you may just have a bad motor... like anything else manufactured, one may have slipped through the QC line with a bad winding or a bind in the shaft sleeve bearings that's making it heat up.

Good luck!

[TheLegend]

Re: Sur pik hand dryer motor

Originally posted by pat:

I am getting prices like $76.00. This just looks like a $30 motor to me.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The $46 is for the second output shaft. Dual blower applications aren't as common as singles.

The more unique the need, the more money.

The King's idea is a good one. I would add to it to also switch to a smaller diameter hose to help keep the air speed up.

[cabber]

Re: Sur pik hand dryer motor

Hmmz,...the power standard is also 50Hz overhere and indeed on the motor is written 60Hz.

I have created a small propeller on the shaft where the "upper" blower was to create some forced cooling into the motor. Not tested yet but perhaps its just enough to keep it running.

Thanks for your help anyway [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

[TheGMan143]

Re: Sur pik hand dryer motor

Originally posted by cabber:
Hmmz,...the power standard is also 50Hz overhere and indeed on the motor is written 60Hz.

I have created a small propeller on the shaft where the "upper" blower was to create some forced cooling into the motor. Not tested yet but perhaps its just enough to keep it running.

Thanks for your help anyway [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Just head on down to the electrical supply and pick up a 50-hz blower to wire in along with your 60-hz blower... the 60 will run the hand dryer, and the 50 will keep the 60 cool :p [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

[Lampie]

Re: Sur pik hand dryer motor

I have used the old telescore coolers. Before the units were thrown away I took them out. Worked great!
Oh, funny memory; the motors were 110 volts so I did put two motors serial in the Sure Stuck(we have 220 volts and I diddn't save the trafo's), no problemo...
Martin

[V/E Jack]

Re: Sur pik hand dryer motor

Originally posted by cabber:
Hmmz,...the power standard is also 50Hz overhere and indeed on the motor is written 60Hz.

I have created a small propeller on the shaft where the "upper" blower was to create some forced cooling into the motor. Not tested yet but perhaps its just enough to keep it running.

Thanks for your help anyway [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Cabber:

We sell a 50HZ motor V208111276, I can exchange the one you got if you would like too since you got the first one from us.

Jack

[cabber]

Re: Sur pik hand dryer motor

Thanks for your offer Jack, no need to change the motor now because the propeller modification does the trick. And you may use the idea for free [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

[V/E Jack]

Re: Sur pik hand dryer motor

TY cabber..... [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]