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    i have 82-70 machines with the humpback ballreturns regular paddles not pbl's how do you get the paddles to be strong enough to push the pins out of the windows when a ball is resting up against it and at the same time not so strong that the six pounders will still go through willhill24@ec.rr.com [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/usflag.jpg[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/usflag.jpg[/img]
    IF IT AINT FIXED YOU PROBABLY BROKE IT!!!!!!

  • #2
    Re: ball return paddles

    Buy the Vantage PBL paddle....they are great.

    The Lifelong paddle only work with the wings.

    Most exits are too narrow with the wings.

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    • #3
      Re: ball return paddles

      Stahl's has a good PBL paddle too.

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      • #4
        Re: ball return paddles

        The problem is not in the paddle. It's in the paddle drive. If you put in reduction pully's with the stiffer spring shocks. The paddle moves much slower, but has 2 times the strength. The slower paddle allows the ball more time to enter the return while having more then enough strength to knock out a pin, even one with 2 balls behind it.
        Even a old dog can bury a bone

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        • #5
          Re: ball return paddles

          I suggest you call LIFELONG (The humpback people) and have them send you a light ball clutch. Some techs swear by them, some swear never again. But my experience is that they work very well once you understand them and adjust them properly.
          BUT...no system will push out a pin with a couple balls in its way if the carpet belt is wussy at the ball door.

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          • #6
            Re: ball return paddles

            [QUOTE]Originally posted by BowlEquip:
            [QB]I suggest you call LIFELONG (The humpback people) and have them send you a light ball clutch. Some techs swear by them, some swear never again. But my experience is that they work very well once you understand them and adjust them properly.
            BUT...no system will push out a pin with a couple balls in its way if the carpet belt is wussy at the ball door.

            Dont know about a wussy carpet! But I can tell you that this set-up will push out a pin with 2 balls behind it. I'm working a borrowing a camcorder to film it.
            Even a old dog can bury a bone

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            • #7
              Re: ball return paddles

              Slow down the rudder drive and make the shock as strong as you want to.
              Gene Simmons for president!!!

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              • #8
                Re: ball return paddles

                Replacement of a paddle for a thicker one solved the problem of balls stuck for the entrance of the ball exit.

                When a pin comes with it's head into the ball exit on the pin deck side, while a ball tries at the other side to come in, the ball fails because of the pin rolling in the exit. The paddle was able to push the pin out, but when it moves away to the other lane, the pin wins to go back in the hole in stead of the 16 pnd ball.
                The thicker paddle pushed the pin further out, and let the pin better move away by the carpet.

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