new pins

[jas]

ok guys put new pins in the other day amf 70s amflite 2s cant get the fing things to orient on the dist pan im going nuts with pjs seems like head first the pin fall off to late and dont make the turn they sit there normally run 10 15 jams aweek this week had 40 since wed any sugestions thanks

jacko

[Bobby Bee]

Re: new pins

Clean them! Wipe the surlin (sp?) coating that AMF applies for shipping, off of them and they'll run great. Either that or wait it out a week or 2 more and the coating will rub off on it's own.

BB

[TheGMan143]

Re: new pins

Just for clarification:

Surlyn is the actual plastic coating that the wood core of the pin is coated with...

New pins out of the box have a light coating of silicone (or something similar) that lets them slide against each other in transit, to avoid dull 'rub marks' on them. Wiping them off with alcohol, or warm water and a little detergent lane cleaner will usually get rid of it.

Also remember to clean the pin handling areas of the machine if you already ran them... anything that was on the pins is now all over the wheel, bin, cups, and o-pan.

[Alan Meyers]

Re: new pins

For some possible bad news...if they put in a big percentage of slipping agent , you may not see any improvement by cleaning them. It may take many weeks and months for the pin jams to calm down.Happened at one of our sister houses.Hope it doesn't happen to you !

[Bobby Bee]

Re: new pins

Yes, thank you G! He is correct...writing without thinking ..But anyway, I was told it is 'an agent with the same/similar properties as silicone' Thanks for being on the ball G-Man!

[Rep]

Re: new pins

"G" is always on the ball [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] Depends really house to house, we just throw em in right out of the box, and the past few sets have been ok a few extra pin piles here and there but nothing crazy, but some old sets we got years ago caused havok from us not cleaning them right off

[TheGMan143]

Re: new pins

It seems to differ from case to case... we've gotten new pins that were nearly dry right out of the box, and others in the same shipment that were so slippery you had a a rough time just holding on to them.

We usually wipe the all off just to be on the safe side... easier than trying to clean off the whole machine after running them or putting up with jams.

[JKokenge]

Re: new pins

we just put 70 new cases in last week and have not had any problems,,, we did not clean them
this time because we have those new dist belts
that grab em every time,,, email if interested,,
good luck ,,, it will get better,,, and they don't fall over on first ball,,,

[Kingram]

Re: new pins

Originally posted by TheGMan143:
Just for clarification:

Surlyn is the actual plastic coating that the wood core of the pin is coated with...

New pins out of the box have a light coating of silicone (or something similar) that lets them slide against each other in transit, to avoid dull 'rub marks' on them. Wiping them off with alcohol, or warm water and a little detergent lane cleaner will usually get rid of it.

Also remember to clean the pin handling areas of the machine if you already ran them... anything that was on the pins is now all over the wheel, bin, cups, and o-pan.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Right on G-man. Several years ago owners with Brunswick machine had trouble with AMF pins indexing. So AMF added this silicone to address the problem and it worked. It also gave us 30 mechanics head aches with pins slipping out of the toggles causing 20 pinfeeds and other problems.

[SHAW]

Re: new pins

i put my pins right in and they run great. never had that issue with amflites. are you sure your pin holder is adjusted properly. sometimes when you put in new pins they won't act the same as old ones.

[JimDorsin]

Re: new pins

One option that almost always permanantly resolves this problem, as well as decreases the possibility of pin jams in general is to slow down your elevators....AMF and Vantage have a good adjustable sheeve for your elevator drive...but it is expencive....I would order the 5 inch cast iron (dont go with the aluminum...it is slightly bigger, makes it hard to put the belt on, and prone to break) from stalls...you will also have to replace your drive belt with 188 incher...also available from stalls...they are a great resolution!!