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    I am a newcomer to working at lanes, although I have been around them for my whole life. My friends parents owned lanes, so I would help out here or there, fixing pin jams, filling pop machines, stuff like that. This past year I finally started actually working for them, and a few times I have found myself stumped.

    This year, we added 8 new lanes ( seperate from our 12 other lanes, which is divided by a wall ). We got all used 82-70's, and they have not worked entirely right since the day we first bowled on them. This past weekend. We were having troubles with lane 1. What would happen, is the sweep would come down, sweep back, and get caught on the end of the lane, like it would fall into the pit, so the table would just continually just pick up the pins and set them, and repeat. What would cause this? Would the sweep be over adjusted and sweeping back too far?

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    Re: Newcomer

    Originally posted by YoungBowler04:
    I am a newcomer to working at lanes, although I have been around them for my whole life. My friends parents owned lanes, so I would help out here or there, fixing pin jams, filling pop machines, stuff like that. This past year I finally started actually working for them, and a few times I have found myself stumped.

    This year, we added 8 new lanes ( seperate from our 12 other lanes, which is divided by a wall ). We got all used 82-70's, and they have not worked entirely right since the day we first bowled on them. This past weekend. We were having troubles with lane 1. What would happen, is the sweep would come down, sweep back, and get caught on the end of the lane, like it would fall into the pit, so the table would just continually just pick up the pins and set them, and repeat. What would cause this? Would the sweep be over adjusted and sweeping back too far?
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I wish I could help you but I can't Im a former Brunswick guy with no expereince on AMF's.....
    But you came to the right place, the people here at BowlTech are great, know their stuff, and won't hesitate to answer your questions.
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    • #3
      Re: Newcomer

      try shortening your main sweep drive link to 10 1/8 inchens
      First you clean it
      then you lube it
      then you clean it
      then you adjust it
      then you clean it
      then you clean it some more

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      • #4
        Re: Newcomer

        WangJ
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        Member # 1283

        posted April 01, 2004 07:08 PM
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        hey mekanic

        Here are the instructions i got from stahls for adjusting a sweep and they have worked every time for smoothing out a sweep.

        They are as follows..........

        1. Crank the sweep as high as it will go at the 0 position. Using the long rod on each side of the sweep arms (not sure the part #), adjust them so that each side of the sweep is 23.5 inches off the pindeck from the 1-2 board. Make sure to tighten the jam nuts back up.

        2. Crank sweep to 66 guard position. Using the long threaded link on each side, 15/16" nut, adjust the sweep to be 5/16" off the gutter for each side. Again make sure to tighten the nut back up.

        3. Crank sweep to 4 5 6 row, and adjust the saddles on each side of the frame of the machine so that the sweep is 5/16" off the pin deck on each side. Lower the saddle to raise the sweep and raise the saddle to lower the sweep. If you need more height on either side, you can add washers behind the rubber bumper on the telescoping link.

        4. Crank the sweep as far back as it will go just until it starts to come forward again. Adjust the main rod coming off the sweep crank arm so that the back edge of the sweep is lined up with teh back edge of the 7 and 10 pin spots.
        Again remember to tighten things back up.

        That should smooth out the sweep. Dont forget to check your cams for proper stopping positions.

        Wang
        If at first you don't succeed, try, try, again. Then quit. There's no use being a damn fool about it.&quot; -W.C.Fields

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        • #5
          Re: Newcomer

          WangJ
          Member
          Member # 1283

          posted April 01, 2004 07:08 PM
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          hey mekanic

          Here are the instructions i got from stahls for adjusting a sweep and they have worked every time for smoothing out a sweep.

          They are as follows..........

          1. Crank the sweep as high as it will go at the 0 position. Using the long rod on each side of the sweep arms (not sure the part #), adjust them so that each side of the sweep is 23.5 inches off the pindeck from the 1-2 board. Make sure to tighten the jam nuts back up.

          2. Crank sweep to 66 guard position. Using the long threaded link on each side, 15/16" nut, adjust the sweep to be 5/16" off the gutter for each side. Again make sure to tighten the nut back up.

          3. Crank sweep to 4 5 6 row, and adjust the saddles on each side of the frame of the machine so that the sweep is 5/16" off the pin deck on each side. Lower the saddle to raise the sweep and raise the saddle to lower the sweep. If you need more height on either side, you can add washers behind the rubber bumper on the telescoping link.

          4. Crank the sweep as far back as it will go just until it starts to come forward again. Adjust the main rod coming off the sweep crank arm so that the back edge of the sweep is lined up with teh back edge of the 7 and 10 pin spots.
          Again remember to tighten things back up.

          That should smooth out the sweep. Dont forget to check your cams for proper stopping positions.

          Wang
          If at first you don't succeed, try, try, again. Then quit. There's no use being a damn fool about it.&quot; -W.C.Fields

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          • #6
            Re: Newcomer

            Felix second post is for lane 2.
            So it goes.

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            • #7
              Re: Newcomer

              lol, as said, back the sweep travel off some with the short fat rod, too much travel will cause the sweep to collapse into the pit
              All I want in life is to turn wrenches and climb around pinsetters/pinspotters again :/

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              • #8
                Re: Newcomer

                Felix loves them double post's
                I think he's working on his post count. The way he double post's everything you'd think he get's a kick-back on every post. lmao [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] :p
                Even a old dog can bury a bone

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                • #9
                  Re: Newcomer

                  Thanks... the lanes have been nothing but trouble, mainly due to the fact that the people we hired to install them did one crappy job and took a lot of shortcuts. Plus the fact that we forgot to wipe the surlyn off the new pins we put in so we have had pinjams galore . Oh well. I have been hanging around here in the shadows for weeks, finally yesterday i decided to register [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] .

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                  • #10
                    Re: Newcomer

                    Originally posted by YoungBowler04:
                    Thanks... the lanes have been nothing but trouble, mainly due to the fact that the people we hired to install them did one crappy job and took a lot of shortcuts. Plus the fact that we forgot to wipe the surlyn off the new pins we put in so we have had pinjams galore . Oh well. I have been hanging around here in the shadows for weeks, finally yesterday i decided to register [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] .
                    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Welcome aboard! Post any problems you have here, theres a lot of VERY knowledgeable people on here who will help ya thru almost anything [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
                    All I want in life is to turn wrenches and climb around pinsetters/pinspotters again :/

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                    • #11
                      Re: Newcomer

                      Originally posted by YoungBowler04:
                      Plus the fact that we forgot to wipe the surlyn off the new pins
                      <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I hate it when that happens!!! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

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                      • #12
                        Re: Newcomer

                        Originally posted by Coors:
                        </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by YoungBowler04:
                        Plus the fact that we forgot to wipe the surlyn off the new pins
                        <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I hate it when that happens!!! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That surlyn is hard to get off.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Newcomer

                          Yep...real hard. But it will wear off all by itself after about...lets say...12,000 lines...LOL [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]
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                          • #14
                            Re: Newcomer

                            Originally posted by JBEES:
                            Yep...real hard. But it will wear off all by itself after about...lets say...12,000 lines...LOL [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]
                            <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Or 30 seconds for a Brunswick turnpan jam when they get pushed into the drive belts... [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img]

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