Cushion box

[SweepCam]

What company is making the most durable and husky cushion box? I have had a lot of trouble the last year.

[old-school-mechanic]

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Are you talking about part # 000-022-794 ?? Thats the number for a right hand machine. I like Vantage urethane blocks. If your talking about the steel box. #000-022-788 Then I cant help you much. Never have much trouble with mine. Most all my part's come from Stahl's or vantage.

[SweepCam]

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The steel box

[TheGMan143]

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It does sound like the box being referred to is the cushion block box. They do seem to break in bunches... you'll get a couple broken ones in a short time, then nothing for a while, then a few more.

We've had good luck with the Vantage urethane blocks and the steel box mountings. One thing we found that keeps the blocks from wearing is putting a light skin of synthetic grease to the inner surface of the hole in the block. Hasn't shown any signs of damaging the urethane, and protects it from wear.

As for the steel block boxes, not much you can do except keep the bolts tight... if they're loose and the box can move around, you're going to wind up with the box tabs breaking off, or the bolts shearing off in the sideplate.

[pulse-tech]

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It's not something i have seen a stronger part for they break if the bolts are loose as said earlier
keep the bolts tight the rarely break

[Clutch Plate]

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Originally posted by jfglndn:
The steel box

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A.M.F. is all I use and they rarely break.

[MCSS]

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Originally posted by jfglndn:
The steel box

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">AMF. Only had one break in six years. And was because of loose bolts.

All my parts are AMF and a little from JCP.

Mike

[Rep]

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We use AMF's also. I change about one a month if that and we're a 64 lane house, they stand up well for us [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

[Dutch]

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I don't know of anyone that's selling a beefed up box. As stated above, if you keep the bolts tight &amp; USE FLAT WASHERS, there aren't many problems with them.

One nice thing about them, when they do break, they're probably the easiest part on the machine to weld.

[John_Galt]

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In the same vein that I defended Vantage distributor cams and cables because they're good, I know firsthand that their 22788 box is crap.
I don't know if it's too thin a gauge or too weak a metal, but a favorite for returns are boxes that have failed prematurely.
I have experienced this myself at centers too.

So, if you're not inclined to change these a lot and do a lot of welding only to have it fail too soon again, buy the real AMF box.
Chad

P.S. the Vantage 22794/795 blocks are good though.

[pulse-tech]

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Magic i have used the blocks before and i liked them i thing most of vantage's urethane parts are top notch especially like the vibration danpeners for the pits

[felix]

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Mod; [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img] Mod: [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img] ...Dutch Had something to do with this?

[pulse-tech]

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that was about five years ago that i used them Have they changed any ??

[TheLegend]

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Originally posted by felix:
Mod; [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img] Mod: [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img] ...Dutch Had something to do with this?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

Well he's right.....

.... and Vantage boxes made for great welding practice. Because you got lots of it. :p

[LancerLanesMech]

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I like that Vantage quick removal block, V203 I think is the number.